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Re: Jerry » Paulbwell

Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 18:29:45

In reply to Jerry » jerrympls, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 18:13:29

> > > Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
> > >
> > > Thats the idea I believe?
> >
> > Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
> >
> >
>
> Good for you dude,
>
> They can pry my "uppers and downers" away from my cold stiff corpse.
>
> Its life for me now, no more failures and losings, sick of that shi*
>
> Cheers bro

Dude- you can I have to meet sometime - you crack me up!! (in a good way). Do you ever get on AIM or Yahoo Messenger or MSN messenger? Maybe we could chat sometime? Babblemail me!

Jerry

 

Re: Jerry » jerrympls

Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 19:57:30

In reply to Re: Jerry » Paulbwell, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 18:29:45

> > > > Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
> > > >
> > > > Thats the idea I believe?
> > >
> > > Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Good for you dude,
> >
> > They can pry my "uppers and downers" away from my cold stiff corpse.
> >
> > Its life for me now, no more failures and losings, sick of that shi*
> >
> > Cheers bro
>
> Dude- you can I have to meet sometime - you crack me up!! (in a good way). Do you ever get on AIM or Yahoo Messenger or MSN messenger? Maybe we could chat sometime? Babblemail me!
>
> Jerry
>

Yer I'm on MSN, I'd be happy to add ya

 

Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » rjlockhart98

Posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:50:27

In reply to anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by rjlockhart98 on April 20, 2005, at 10:49:51


I take adderall & clonazepam. ask away..

Scott

 

See how far psychiatry has come from Dexamyl! (nm) » rjlockhart98

Posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:53:27

In reply to anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by rjlockhart98 on April 20, 2005, at 10:49:51

 

Re: Jerry » Paulbwell

Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 21:30:02

In reply to Re: Jerry » jerrympls, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 19:57:30


>
> Yer I'm on MSN, I'd be happy to add ya
>

yeah "jerry_fantastic@hotmail.com"

Add me!!

 

Re: Dexamyl

Posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 21:36:40

In reply to Dexamyl, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 14:12:40

> Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
>
> "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
>
> It states it was available in the following
> -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
>
> 1 Grain=40mgs
>
>
> "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
>
> J.A.M.A-1956.

Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.

 

Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant

Posted by jonh kimble on April 21, 2005, at 21:51:07

In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » rjlockhart98, posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:50:27

Haha! Thats funny, dexamyl 50 years ago, take out the barb and replace with benzo. The strides are astounding. Its pathetic how advanced meds have emerged especially for anxiety and add. Bezone's thats the only now addition. and doctors still dont want to prescribe them because there addictive, hmm so were the barbs. Stupid IMOP. Thanks MrScott

I personally take what many others here take, an adderall + klonopin combo. Adderall can cause anxiety which is completely offset with an adequate klono dose. And being verbally inibited also goes down alot. Its a great mood, consentration and anxiety fix in one. But heres where we gotta talk. How Long have you all been on this sorta combo. I KNOW Ive developed some tolerance over the past maybe 6 months. This to means that each day more and more, its gonna work less and less. Its great but cant be done forever basically. But maybe this is not completely true? Any other opinions? I take about 3mgs klono and 30 mgs adderall / day. Maybe its true that after a couple dose adjustments, one can continue on his combination. Its unlikely many studies will be done if off patent benzoes and the infamous amphetamines will ever be done for things like deprssion and social anxiety which the big companies have everyone believing they can control with the single neurotransmitter serotonin. If I stop these meds, I return to normal, NOT worse which admittedly many do. But what im saying is if I and others can stop these drugs all of a sudden, not feel withdrawal, naturally still be anxious. Then maybe more should be said for this combo. I can say I would have dropped of college close to a daily basis if it were not for these meds. They get full credit for my successful year. About successful years plural thats what Im worried about. Tom

 

Re: Dexamyl » vivi

Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19

In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 21:36:40

> > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> >
> > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> >
> > It states it was available in the following
> > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> >
> > 1 Grain=40mgs
> >
> >
> > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> >
> > J.A.M.A-1956.
>
> Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
>
>

NO NO NO

'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories

No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
Desoxyn+Nembutal.

 

Re: Nembutal

Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 23:16:29

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19

Nembutal was THEE BEST sleep I have EVER gotten in my life. I have the script still in my wallet that my pdoc wrote for it - but as I posted earlier they discontinued it Nov. 2004. UGH!!

 

Re: nembutal removed?

Posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 21, 2005, at 23:29:17

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19

i hate it when they say obsolete.

Anyway.

 

Re: Nembutal » jerrympls

Posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2005, at 23:52:02

In reply to Re: Nembutal, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 23:16:29

You may as well throw it away. A script is only valid for one year. Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: Nembutal » Phillipa

Posted by jerrympls on April 22, 2005, at 0:18:40

In reply to Re: Nembutal » jerrympls, posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2005, at 23:52:02

> You may as well throw it away. A script is only valid for one year. Fondly, Phillipa

The script is from dec. 2004....?

 

Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » jonh kimble

Posted by Mr.Scott on April 22, 2005, at 1:08:36

In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by jonh kimble on April 21, 2005, at 21:51:07

I would anticipate tolerance and eventual ineficacy. Would love to be proven wrong though!

 

Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant

Posted by Phillipa on April 22, 2005, at 16:33:43

In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » jonh kimble, posted by Mr.Scott on April 22, 2005, at 1:08:36

Sorry Jerry, I had been gone all day, and have been reading the posts very quickly. My bust!

 

Re: Dexamyl

Posted by vivi on April 22, 2005, at 22:26:56

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19

> > > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> > >
> > > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> > >
> > > It states it was available in the following
> > > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> > >
> > > 1 Grain=40mgs
> > >
> > >
> > > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> > >
> > > J.A.M.A-1956.
> >
> > Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
> >
> >
>
> NO NO NO
>
> 'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories
>
> No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
> Desoxyn+Nembutal.

Makes you wonder why it was prescribed in the first place? I guess M.D'S figured it would help depression. I can't imagine with the Dexedrine bringing you up and the Barbituate taking you down.
Now, Methamphetamine I have heard that is one of the worst drugs thats abused?

 

Re: Dexamyl » vivi

Posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 0:19:24

In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by vivi on April 22, 2005, at 22:26:56

> > > > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> > > >
> > > > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> > > >
> > > > It states it was available in the following
> > > > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> > > >
> > > > 1 Grain=40mgs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> > > >
> > > > J.A.M.A-1956.
> > >
> > > Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > NO NO NO
> >
> > 'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories
> >
> > No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
> > Desoxyn+Nembutal.
>
> Makes you wonder why it was prescribed in the first place? I guess M.D'S figured it would help depression. I can't imagine with the Dexedrine bringing you up and the Barbituate taking you down.
> Now, Methamphetamine I have heard that is one of the worst drugs thats abused?
>
>

Aparently Barb+Amphet combos had a synegestic effect on each other, the Amphetamine improved mood and alertness, while the Barb, counteracted any anxiety or jitters it created, creating a smooth ride.

Elvis loved Desbutal.

 

Re: Dexamyl

Posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 17:08:59

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 0:19:24

Come to think of it, Elvis loved Dex and everything else in pill form which got him stoned,
especially

-lots of Amphetamines
-lots of Barbiturates, 4 of em were found in his dead Body
-and he had a love for Dilaudid (several x more potent than Heroin)-reserved for sever Cancer and burn pain, he said of it "I'v tried em all and it,s the best". R.I.P Elvis

 

Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell

Posted by vivi on April 23, 2005, at 18:55:06

In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 17:08:59

> Come to think of it, Elvis loved Dex and everything else in pill form which got him stoned,
> especially
>
> -lots of Amphetamines
> -lots of Barbiturates, 4 of em were found in his dead Body
> -and he had a love for Dilaudid (several x more potent than Heroin)-reserved for sever Cancer and burn pain, he said of it "I'v tried em all and it,s the best". R.I.P Elvis

If you don't mind me asking....How long have you been taking Rit? I have only been on Dex 15mg for about 2 months. How long do M.D.'s usually keep people on stimulants?
Dexamyl probably could have had a high success rate, considering it eased the anxiety and depression.

 

Re: Dexamyl » vivi

Posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 21:06:47

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 23, 2005, at 18:55:06

> > Come to think of it, Elvis loved Dex and everything else in pill form which got him stoned,
> > especially
> >
> > -lots of Amphetamines
> > -lots of Barbiturates, 4 of em were found in his dead Body
> > -and he had a love for Dilaudid (several x more potent than Heroin)-reserved for sever Cancer and burn pain, he said of it "I'v tried em all and it,s the best". R.I.P Elvis
>
> If you don't mind me asking....How long have you been taking Rit? I have only been on Dex 15mg for about 2 months. How long do M.D.'s usually keep people on stimulants?
> Dexamyl probably could have had a high success rate, considering it eased the anxiety and depression.
>
>
I have been taking Ritalin a little over 1 year, and as long as it helps your condition an MD should keep you on Meds which help.

Does Dex help your condition? you seem to be a little undecided on this?

 

Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell

Posted by vivi on April 24, 2005, at 0:44:03

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 21:06:47

> > > Come to think of it, Elvis loved Dex and everything else in pill form which got him stoned,
> > > especially
> > >
> > > -lots of Amphetamines
> > > -lots of Barbiturates, 4 of em were found in his dead Body
> > > -and he had a love for Dilaudid (several x more potent than Heroin)-reserved for sever Cancer and burn pain, he said of it "I'v tried em all and it,s the best". R.I.P Elvis
> >
> > If you don't mind me asking....How long have you been taking Rit? I have only been on Dex 15mg for about 2 months. How long do M.D.'s usually keep people on stimulants?
> > Dexamyl probably could have had a high success rate, considering it eased the anxiety and depression.
> >
> >
> I have been taking Ritalin a little over 1 year, and as long as it helps your condition an MD should keep you on Meds which help.
>
> Does Dex help your condition? you seem to be a little undecided on this?
>
Well I was concerned about the weight factor because it actually would help if I gained a little. I had heard Dex was big in the 70's for weight loss, so I was surprised my M.D. prescibed it to me. Especially since he mentioned that he was going to monitor my weight. He weighed me the last time I went in, but I have not lost any weight. I noticed a slight change in my appetite, but then again I don't eat alot. It does help me at work. I have a job with a very high stress level and I had been feeling for a while that I could not prioritize my tasks. i was trying to do everything at once, but then not completing any one assignment to the best of my ability. It became very frustrating so Dex has helped me focus and calm down. Thanks for your input.
Viv

 

Re: Dexamyl » vivi

Posted by Sarah T. on April 24, 2005, at 1:18:46

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 24, 2005, at 0:44:03

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I was concerned about the weight factor because it actually would help if I gained a little. I had heard Dex was big in the 70's for weight loss, so I was surprised my M.D. prescibed it to me. Especially since he mentioned that he was going to monitor my weight. He weighed me the last time I went in, but I have not lost any weight. I noticed a slight change in my appetite, but then again I don't eat alot. It does help me at work. I have a job with a very high stress level and I had been feeling for a while that I could not prioritize my tasks. i was trying to do everything at once, but then not completing any one assignment to the best of my ability. It became very frustrating so Dex has helped me focus and calm down. Thanks for your input.> Viv
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Vivi, I was interested to read what you wrote about your experience with Dexedrine and the effect it has on your weight. I didn't lose weight when I was on Dexedrine. I may have even gained a small amount. I had a good appetite on Dex, especially after I exercised. What I was surprised to discover was that when I got off of Dexedrine, I actually lost weight. I think that happened because I got depressed, and when I'm depressed, everything sort of shuts down, including my entire alimentary canal, which means no hunger and no peristalsis either (ugh!).

 

Re: Hunger+Stimulants » Sarah T.

Posted by Paulbwell on April 24, 2005, at 1:46:05

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Sarah T. on April 24, 2005, at 1:18:46

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I was concerned about the weight factor because it actually would help if I gained a little. I had heard Dex was big in the 70's for weight loss, so I was surprised my M.D. prescibed it to me. Especially since he mentioned that he was going to monitor my weight. He weighed me the last time I went in, but I have not lost any weight. I noticed a slight change in my appetite, but then again I don't eat alot. It does help me at work. I have a job with a very high stress level and I had been feeling for a while that I could not prioritize my tasks. i was trying to do everything at once, but then not completing any one assignment to the best of my ability. It became very frustrating so Dex has helped me focus and calm down. Thanks for your input.> Viv
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> Hi Vivi, I was interested to read what you wrote about your experience with Dexedrine and the effect it has on your weight. I didn't lose weight when I was on Dexedrine. I may have even gained a small amount. I had a good appetite on Dex, especially after I exercised. What I was surprised to discover was that when I got off of Dexedrine, I actually lost weight. I think that happened because I got depressed, and when I'm depressed, everything sort of shuts down, including my entire alimentary canal, which means no hunger and no peristalsis either (ugh!).


Ritalin makes me hungry, partly due to improved mood and improved brain activity, to study, read, and feed my Brain.

 

Re: Dexamyl » vivi

Posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » Paulbwell, posted by vivi on April 23, 2005, at 18:55:06

I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.

Scott

 

Re: Dexamyl

Posted by Paulbwell on April 24, 2005, at 2:27:01

In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Mr.Scott on April 24, 2005, at 2:05:04

>
>
> I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
>
> Scott

Increase the dose, or take Sodium bicarb with it, before it.

 

Re: Dexamyl

Posted by not_so_pro_social on April 24, 2005, at 2:39:09

In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by Paulbwell on April 24, 2005, at 2:27:01

> >
> >
> > I have taken adderall for about 4-5 months. It no longer works, but instead causes increased anxiety. At first it was a miracle.
> >
> > Scott
>
> Increase the dose, or take Sodium bicarb with it, before it.


And DXM (dextrometorphan) or Memantine or Vinpocetine.


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