Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 435838

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What's Klonopin's duration / half-life?

Posted by mmcconathy on December 30, 2004, at 21:24:55

Every source ive looked at, it said less than 24 hours, well does it stay in your system that long.

What is this like a modern version of phenobarbital?

Anyways, i hope SOMEone can give me some awnsers, because i cannot wake up in the morning im so groggy.

Good Day

Matt

 

Re: and can it be a hypnotic

Posted by mmcconathy on December 30, 2004, at 21:47:54

In reply to What's Klonopin's duration / half-life?, posted by mmcconathy on December 30, 2004, at 21:24:55

I take 1mg when needed for anxiety, its not that great. I feel disoriented on it.

Anyways what are the hypnotic doses for this medication.

Thanks you and good day

Matt

 

Re: What's Klonopin's duration / half-life? » mmcconathy

Posted by ed_uk on December 31, 2004, at 7:07:22

In reply to What's Klonopin's duration / half-life?, posted by mmcconathy on December 30, 2004, at 21:24:55

Hi Matt!!!

The half-life of Klonopin is usually between 20 and 40 hours- but can be longer. Yes, it is hypnotic. Xanax, Ativan, Klonopin and Valium are all hypnotic but the hypnotic effects should start to lessen after a few weeks of continuous daily use.

Ed.

PS. I know how you feel on a morning! I feel groggy every morning!

 

Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks

Posted by mmcconathy on January 1, 2005, at 23:41:50

In reply to Re: What's Klonopin's duration / half-life? » mmcconathy, posted by ed_uk on December 31, 2004, at 7:07:22

I've taken my dad's barbital's, Luminal 30mg, it is miserable!

Klonopin is less heavier than Luminal(phenobarbial), i mean that stuff SLOWS every thing down on that stuff, i hate it.

Anyway....


I going to ask about Ativan, becuase i hate long acting sedatives because i dont like being sedated all day!

20-40 hours! you are KIDDING ME! thats like 2 days, wait thats impossible, i thought it lasted like 8-10 hours.

Anyways, all this random info is making me need some Thorazine.

Good day.

Matt

 

Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks » mmcconathy

Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 11:09:41

In reply to Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks, posted by mmcconathy on January 1, 2005, at 23:41:50

Hi Matt!

You can't use the elimination half life of a drug to predict how long the effects of that drug will persist after a single dose. Valium, for example, has a longer half life than Klonopin but for me the effects of Valium only last about 2 hours after a single dose. On the other hand, the half life of a drug is a useful predictor of how long the effects of that drug will persist after the discontinuation of daily long term use of that drug. Basically, what I'm saying is that if you're interested in using a benzo on an 'as needed' basis, you need to find out the duration of action of that drug after a single dose.... don't pay too much attention to its half life.

Is your dad epileptic? What were the effects of Luminal like for you? Was is very sedating?

I agree that you might prefer Ativan to Klonopin. For me, after a single dose, Ativan lasts about 8 hours.

Good day!
Ed.

 

Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks

Posted by mmcconathy on January 2, 2005, at 21:31:17

In reply to Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks » mmcconathy, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 11:09:41

Yes, he takes it with Dilantin. Old treatment but the man is 65.

I see your intrest in how they differ, i used to be like that to and experiemented.

Generally barbiturates cause more impairment throught the day if given for anxiety. If taken for anxiety, when going to work, your abilities are slowed down, and feel slightly out of reality, i used to but my head down all the time when doing work, you dont feel like doing anything! they make you think about sleep alot more. Thats why there not good for day time anxiety.

But......... when you have nothing to do, they are great meds for peacefulness. On Saturadays, i used to take Amytal and lay back, and forget everything, even thought that really wasnt why it was prescribed, it was great. But times moved on.

Benzo's just make things more smooth, relaxed, just general calm. its easier to keep up with them. Less things bother you. But the only problem is i at times have moderate amniesia, with klonopin i cant really rerember events that happned in the day.

AND and never know when the hell its going to wear off, i feel slugish for a loooong time.

I've taken Ativan before, but i really didnt pay attention to how long it lasted. But it was effective

Hope to hear back

Matt

Anyways, i hope that gave you an idea of what

 

Re: Barbiturates » mmcconathy

Posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:01:00

In reply to Re: klonopin like phenobarbital, it sucks, posted by mmcconathy on January 2, 2005, at 21:31:17

Hi Matt! (Have you noticed that Matt seems to be the most popular name on babble?)

It's really interesting to talk about old drugs with you because people rarely mention barbiturates on p-babble.

Have you ever tried taking a very small dose of phenobarbital for anxiety? Perhaps the dose you took was a bit too high.

>they are great meds for peacefulness

Did Amytal cause euphoria?

How did the effects of Luminal compare to Amytal?

BTW, if you're looking for a benzo with a short duration of action you might like oxazepam.

Regards,
Ed.

 

Re: Barbiturates

Posted by mmcconathy on January 3, 2005, at 21:43:30

In reply to Re: Barbiturates » mmcconathy, posted by ed_uk on January 2, 2005, at 22:01:00

Phenobarbial is ALL-DAY sedation, this is what makes it unpleasant to me becuase it dont want to be "out of it" all day. Very slow onset. Less abuse potential, becuase it lasts so danm long, you cant keep "adding to the effect".
All it does is make things more smooth and peaceful, like a benzo, but mm more diffrent feeling of peacefulness, all i can say its strong! so definetly more impairment.

Amobarbital is similiar but has a "punch" of calm with rapid onset, good for panic attacks. It does.....cause a euphoria of peacefulness, a more deeper state of calm than phenobarbital, this is why it has more abuse potential than Luminal.

Anyways......

I'm intrested in Miltown becuase i dont like the excessive sedation from all the barb's.

But Ativan is still on my mind.

I have declared that i hate Klonopin.

Good Day


Matt

 

Re: Barbiturates

Posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 21:49:29

In reply to Re: Barbiturates, posted by mmcconathy on January 3, 2005, at 21:43:30

Hi Matt!

>I'm intrested in Miltown becuase i dont like the excessive sedation from all the barb's.

Generic meprobamate is still available in the UK but it's very rarely prescribed. Darkhorse (Adam) tried meprobamate and found it more sedating than phenobarbital AND it made him depressed :-(

Ed.

 

Re: Barbiturates

Posted by mmcconathy on January 3, 2005, at 22:02:34

In reply to Re: Barbiturates, posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 21:49:29

Well........


Anyway... i guess i'll throw idea in the trash, there some other brands for Meprobamate in the US Equanil, Miltown, generic. I'm from Dallas, Texas, doctors here are in a way flexable. I hear doc's in the UK are STRICT! anyways im not stating a fact.

Well i hope you found my info helpful............ (your welcome)

Anyways, ask Darkhorse for me more about Miltown if you dont mind.


Cheers

Matt

 

Re: Barbiturates » mmcconathy

Posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:11:59

In reply to Re: Barbiturates, posted by mmcconathy on January 3, 2005, at 22:02:34

Hi Matt!

>I'm from Dallas, Texas, doctors here are in a way flexable. I hear doc's in the UK are STRICT! anyways im not stating a fact.

Doctors here are very unimaginative. If you don't do well on an SSRI they have no idea what to do with you! You never know, you might like meprobamate :-)

>Well i hope you found my info helpful.

Yes, I did. Thank you!

>Anyways, ask Darkhorse for me more about Miltown if you dont mind.

He's got his babblemail switched off unfortunately. I'll ask him if I see him on babble though. If you do a search you might be able to find the posts where I was asking him about his experience with mepro.

Regards,
Ed.

 

Re: Barbiturates

Posted by darkhorse on January 4, 2005, at 8:44:04

In reply to Re: Barbiturates » mmcconathy, posted by ed_uk on January 3, 2005, at 22:11:59

> Hi Matt!
>
> >I'm from Dallas, Texas, doctors here are in a way flexable. I hear doc's in the UK are STRICT! anyways im not stating a fact.
>
> Doctors here are very unimaginative. If you don't do well on an SSRI they have no idea what to do with you! You never know, you might like meprobamate :-)
>
> >Well i hope you found my info helpful.
>
> Yes, I did. Thank you!
>
> >Anyways, ask Darkhorse for me more about Miltown if you dont mind.
>
> He's got his babblemail switched off unfortunately. I'll ask him if I see him on babble though. If you do a search you might be able to find the posts where I was asking him about his experience with mepro.
>
> Regards,
> Ed.
>
>
Hello Ed & Matt:

Sorry for the long delay!!!

Well,I tried both Phen & Mepro....I remember that mepro at 400mg gave me a depressed feeling not unlike clonazepam,and it showed in my face;I looked very sad and could not smile...maybe it was a small dose??? bec. in my experience,when I take a sedative(benzos,and related) in a small dose at the begining of the recommended dose (e.g. diazepam 2mg)I feel depressed and sedated and brain-locked...however, when I increase the dose I get good results (with the exception of clonazepam&clobazam).In fact,I found phen much better than mepro so go figure!!

Just my own input,

Best regards and happy new year(4 days after!!).
Darkhorse
P.S. There is a lot in common between the different benzos and related drugs than differences.

 

Re: Barbiturates » darkhorse

Posted by ed_uk on January 4, 2005, at 13:16:27

In reply to Re: Barbiturates, posted by darkhorse on January 4, 2005, at 8:44:04

Hi :-)

Happy New Year Mr. Darkhorse!

Ed.


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