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Posted by dolefully on May 27, 2004, at 23:51:28
Hi,
My name is D and I have dated a girl for a really long time until she started taking effexor. Some really messed up cruel stuff happened on her part, but essentially she broke my heart, ran away with another guy, I took her back, we got engaged, I begged her to talk to this guy for closure, then she broke my heart again, and now she's back. She has been cold turkey for about 2 months now and we have made a promise to forget and forgive everything and start anew. She's completely different, and really really not right in the head anymore. I feel horrible saying this, but it's hard to love someone who just isn't there. Now I'm not some feeble ugly guy who is obsessed with this girl, in fact she believed for a long time that she wasn't good enough for me, so on and so forth. Her emotions are completely out of control, especially when dealing with me. All she wants to do all day is "have fun," she doesn't think about anything, doesn't better herself in anyway, ect... she just escapes these empty holes in her own existance. She'll be hanging out with friends, then I'll arrive, and she'll yell at me for making them miserable. When in fact they're even closer friends to me, and we were all having tons and tons of fun, but she was acting crazy so that ruined some of our "fun." She seems to not only blame everything on me, but take everything as a direct attack. I can't describe it, but she thinks she's completely cured. It scares me to think that one may never recover from the effects of effexor. She seems to have developed this pattern with her own existance that will one day lead her to misery when she finally wakes up from her comatose existance. Everything is pleasure orientedt and selfish, she was never ever anything like that. It makes me feel so bad when I'm around her now, I try to help, she hates me for it, I try to not help, she asks for me to help her and blames her for making her miserable, this cycle never ends. I understand that maybe we're not meant for each other or what not, but I can't abandon her like this, her life seems in jeopordy. The worry, irritability, mood, and emotiot of her brain seem completely wrong but firm on the way they "want" to be. She's full of negative: impulse, appetite, aggression, and sleep constantly. Her also misunderstands her own social drive, energy, motivation, and concentration. Has serotonin and norepinephrine completely reconfigured themselves in her brain to make her a "bad" person for the rest of her life. Once again, I feel so terrible saying this, but I'm really seeking answer, advise, similar experiences, even awareness of those who have quit effexor themselves. What is going on here? How can this have been such an angel, so cruel, and now constantly mean! Is this girl lost forever to the endless sea of mindlessness and zero awareness or can she become a loving selfless person again? Please help me, I'm scared for her.
Posted by Sad Panda on May 28, 2004, at 2:48:56
In reply to Effexor symptoms after recovery, posted by dolefully on May 27, 2004, at 23:51:28
> Hi,
>
> My name is D and I have dated a girl for a really long time until she started taking effexor. Some really messed up cruel stuff happened on her part, but essentially she broke my heart, ran away with another guy, I took her back, we got engaged, I begged her to talk to this guy for closure, then she broke my heart again, and now she's back. She has been cold turkey for about 2 months now and we have made a promise to forget and forgive everything and start anew. She's completely different, and really really not right in the head anymore. I feel horrible saying this, but it's hard to love someone who just isn't there. Now I'm not some feeble ugly guy who is obsessed with this girl, in fact she believed for a long time that she wasn't good enough for me, so on and so forth. Her emotions are completely out of control, especially when dealing with me. All she wants to do all day is "have fun," she doesn't think about anything, doesn't better herself in anyway, ect... she just escapes these empty holes in her own existance. She'll be hanging out with friends, then I'll arrive, and she'll yell at me for making them miserable. When in fact they're even closer friends to me, and we were all having tons and tons of fun, but she was acting crazy so that ruined some of our "fun." She seems to not only blame everything on me, but take everything as a direct attack. I can't describe it, but she thinks she's completely cured. It scares me to think that one may never recover from the effects of effexor. She seems to have developed this pattern with her own existance that will one day lead her to misery when she finally wakes up from her comatose existance. Everything is pleasure orientedt and selfish, she was never ever anything like that. It makes me feel so bad when I'm around her now, I try to help, she hates me for it, I try to not help, she asks for me to help her and blames her for making her miserable, this cycle never ends. I understand that maybe we're not meant for each other or what not, but I can't abandon her like this, her life seems in jeopordy. The worry, irritability, mood, and emotiot of her brain seem completely wrong but firm on the way they "want" to be. She's full of negative: impulse, appetite, aggression, and sleep constantly. Her also misunderstands her own social drive, energy, motivation, and concentration. Has serotonin and norepinephrine completely reconfigured themselves in her brain to make her a "bad" person for the rest of her life. Once again, I feel so terrible saying this, but I'm really seeking answer, advise, similar experiences, even awareness of those who have quit effexor themselves. What is going on here? How can this have been such an angel, so cruel, and now constantly mean! Is this girl lost forever to the endless sea of mindlessness and zero awareness or can she become a loving selfless person again? Please help me, I'm scared for her.
>
>
>Hi D,
It's extremely unlikely that Effexor is to blame. I'd guess she needs stronger medication as she sounds bipolar or psychotic, most likely Effexor was given during a period of depression or anxiety & it has revealed that she is bipolar(manic-depressive) rather than just unipolar(depression).
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by Buckeye Fan on May 28, 2004, at 7:15:55
In reply to Re: Effexor symptoms after recovery » dolefully, posted by Sad Panda on May 28, 2004, at 2:48:56
I would agree with SADPANDA.
The reasons for being prescribed Effexor in the first place..are probabley the true culprit of your girls ongoing problems.
60 days free of Effexor is enough for the "real her" to now be back in place.
It sounds like the problem is the "REAL her"....
Maybe another trip to the Doctor is in order.
Effexor is not the only game in town, so to speak
and it sounds like your girl needs another Med.God bless
Buckeye Fan
Posted by Ann Marie T. on May 28, 2004, at 8:48:21
In reply to Effexor symptoms after recovery, posted by dolefully on May 27, 2004, at 23:51:28
Sounds like a mood stabilizer could really help her. I was like that before Zyprexa.
Posted by Charm on May 28, 2004, at 8:49:35
In reply to Effexor symptoms after recovery, posted by dolefully on May 27, 2004, at 23:51:28
Hello D! I have to agree with Sad Panda & Buckeye Fan.
Effexor has one of the shortest half lives of any the antidepressants on the market and is well out of her system by now. It really sounds like what your seeing is not Effexor recovery but the very condition that needs to be treated.
She may need to go through many different treatments and combinations thereof before she finds the one that helps the most, but it is really a worthwhile endevor and your support of her through the process is really important. If she's not willing to try different medications, you may be looking at a bumpy road ahead.
Best Wishes!
Charm
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