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Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Marlin on November 17, 2003, at 18:18:15

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P, posted by mrporter1 on November 16, 2003, at 22:56:39

> Sean,
>
> You're right - we should cut back. Seems so easy. I've thought about this a lot and I just think that for some of us there is so little pleasure and "easy" time - that a pleasurable alcohol experience is hard to resist. It would be so nice to figure out how to drink a moderate amount, enjoy it like normal people and not have a scary, terrible reaction the next day. Thanks for the mag citrate suggestion!

Porter I think you've really touched on something important here. For me, after having horrible bouts of panic for days at a time, sometimes it seems the only time I reach some inner peace is if I'm blasted. And that is indeed hard to resist sometimes. It's like I'd rather take the chance of potentially making things worse by having at least one night of fun, where I can relax and be myself. And then the whole 'friends' issue comes in... it seems right now it's just easier to give in and start drinkin' then explain to my friends why I'm not, or would rather not. Weakness on my part I suppose, but there are no easy answers. I did an experiment 2 years ago where I didn't drink for one month. At the time I was on Paxil and was feeling fine as it was. I lost 15 pounds and still ate like a hog. It was extremely difficult being the only sober guy at the party. I went to a wedding too... very boring. The experiment went well, I felt fine, but I'm just not convinced that quitting drinking altogether will improve my panic. I guess a poor analogy would be that cheeseburgers contribute to being overweight, but it doesn't mean you have to quit eating them forever if you want to stay thin.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? sackhoullier

Posted by Marlin on November 17, 2003, at 18:47:38

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by sackhoullier on November 17, 2003, at 15:15:45

Wow, that's impressive. 15 years and then you quit for 10 weeks. How long have you had panic? Have you taken any medication, been to a therapist? What was it like being around your family and not drinking? Were they understanding, or did they just break your balls all the time? What kinds of things did you do when you quit for 10 weeks? Still have fun?
What is 'Scouse'? How long do your panic attacks/chest fluctuations last?

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on November 17, 2003, at 21:02:10

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? sackhoullier, posted by Marlin on November 17, 2003, at 18:47:38

Marlin, last night with the hangover still in me going to be I caught a bad moment when half in and out of sleep and felt like choking and jumped up with my heart skipping, this was VERY scary to say the least and I felt I was really losing it. Sometimes my thoughts will race so fast and scare me, it's like slowwwww down but I can only do that with 400mg of Magnesium Citrate powder, really a big help for Anxiety! Did you know Alcohol kills Magnesium in your body like crazy, and that is what keeps you calm and keeps your neurotransmitters in your head working correct? So our symptoms are B Vitamins being gone which is for our nervous system and key minerals and vitamins, both in which cause panic and anxiety attacks. Half our problem when we drink is malnutrition, it literally ruins healthy flora which helps you assimilate food, enzymes in your stomach which help digest, causes leaky gut (IBS), kills Vitamins and Minerals, so this is whats going on when we drink. I think cutting back would help all of us, that or just be a moderate drinker and not a 6 or 7 + drinker every single time we drink, it seems we always have to get hammered when we drink. I feel this is happening to all of us because of deficiencies and so on, which is the most I can come up with right now. Tell me what you think guys.........

 

Interesting read righ here guys, try this.....

Posted by Sean P on November 17, 2003, at 21:23:18

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by sackhoullier on November 17, 2003, at 15:15:45

http://www.doctoryourself.com/alcoholism.html

 

More for you guys to read, very interesting

Posted by Sean P on November 17, 2003, at 21:32:21

In reply to Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??!?!?, posted by Panic_Attack on September 27, 2002, at 11:13:59

I am not saying to just do this and go out and drink, but we need to replace B Vitamins and so on in our bodies which are probably causing a ton of the symptoms we are having, I did more research and came up with this for you guys.
http://www.doctoryourself.com/alcohol_protocol.html

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by KimberlyDi on November 18, 2003, at 7:48:14

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Marlin on November 17, 2003, at 18:18:15

Try counting total days of sobriety, and not the uninterrupted period of sobriety. Look back on the year. Look at something 1 way, say you had 4 1-day relapses. There's saying 4 relapses, or there's saying you had 361 (365-4) days of sobriety. All in all, the less you drink, the better you'll be. Being human guarantees imperfection so be careful with the unattainable goals... It's all a state of mind. :)

Oh yeah, and life is dull being the only sober one.

KDi in TX

> > Sean,
> >
> > You're right - we should cut back. Seems so easy. I've thought about this a lot and I just think that for some of us there is so little pleasure and "easy" time - that a pleasurable alcohol experience is hard to resist. It would be so nice to figure out how to drink a moderate amount, enjoy it like normal people and not have a scary, terrible reaction the next day. Thanks for the mag citrate suggestion!
>
> Porter I think you've really touched on something important here. For me, after having horrible bouts of panic for days at a time, sometimes it seems the only time I reach some inner peace is if I'm blasted. And that is indeed hard to resist sometimes. It's like I'd rather take the chance of potentially making things worse by having at least one night of fun, where I can relax and be myself. And then the whole 'friends' issue comes in... it seems right now it's just easier to give in and start drinkin' then explain to my friends why I'm not, or would rather not. Weakness on my part I suppose, but there are no easy answers. I did an experiment 2 years ago where I didn't drink for one month. At the time I was on Paxil and was feeling fine as it was. I lost 15 pounds and still ate like a hog. It was extremely difficult being the only sober guy at the party. I went to a wedding too... very boring. The experiment went well, I felt fine, but I'm just not convinced that quitting drinking altogether will improve my panic. I guess a poor analogy would be that cheeseburgers contribute to being overweight, but it doesn't mean you have to quit eating them forever if you want to stay thin.
>
>

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by ditzypixy on November 18, 2003, at 15:02:02

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on November 16, 2003, at 17:23:59

alcahol can increase all that sorta stuff,if youre in a bad mood initially,it can just serve to exacerbate it.

 

Re: More for you guys to read, very interesting

Posted by Marlin on November 18, 2003, at 21:22:00

In reply to More for you guys to read, very interesting, posted by Sean P on November 17, 2003, at 21:32:21

I read it all Sean, thanks for the research. It sounds like this Dr. Saul guy is pretty much cuckoo over vitamins B & C. This sounds like good support to better cope with our bad habits of drinking. But I still need some answers how to cope with these brutal drawn out panic episodes ... preferably without a prescription.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Marlin

Posted by sackhoullier on November 19, 2003, at 12:28:44

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? sackhoullier, posted by Marlin on November 17, 2003, at 18:47:38

> Wow, that's impressive. 15 years and then you quit for 10 weeks. How long have you had panic?

In a proper recognisable state as panic attacks, only about three years, but I've somatasised stress into physical symptoms for as long as I can remember.

Have you taken any medication, been to a therapist?

I've been on a bunch of SSRI's over the years but I'm drug free at the mo. I've recently been prescribed lithium as a preventative measure but haven't started it.

What was it like being around your family and not drinking?

You know, because I was so strung out when I packed in, it really didn't hurt. It was like that episode of the Simpsons when Homer had got injured when the Duff factory had blown up and Barney offered him a beer in hospital... 'Beer hurt Homer.' LOL.

Were they understanding, or did they just break your balls all the time?

My dad just ciouldn't understand the concept of us going to the football and me not drinking. Every five minutes he'd ask me to have a drink, and invariably buy me a few that I'd leave.

What kinds of things did you do when you quit for 10 weeks? Still have fun?

Tons more stuff. You get to be able to use your car! Went walking in the mountains , got in the gym every day, read more, got much more of my own writing done, had more sex, blah blah blah.

> What is 'Scouse'?

Sorry, parochial term meaning someone from Liverpool.

How long do your panic attacks/chest fluctuations last? All day after a booze sesh with peaks and troughs during it.

 

My 2 cents

Posted by oeps7 on November 19, 2003, at 12:43:07

In reply to Re: More for you guys to read, very interesting, posted by Marlin on November 18, 2003, at 21:22:00

I have in the past had all the symptoms you are talking about. I am a recovered alcoholic. If you are on meds and combining both it's not a good idea, I think the combination of the two could be contibuting to the panic attacks and racing heart - this has happened to me many times in the past. I can't drink socially, I always needed several drinks once I started.
Take Care,
Mary

 

Re: My 2 cents

Posted by oeps7 on November 19, 2003, at 12:45:28

In reply to My 2 cents, posted by oeps7 on November 19, 2003, at 12:43:07

ps. life can be exciting without alcohol, actuallly better. You need to make up your mind and get support if you want to quit.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by treb on November 20, 2003, at 23:48:40

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by ditzypixy on November 18, 2003, at 15:02:02

Don't know if anyone is still reading this but I can offer my experience. I had been drinking about 30 years and never had any ill affects. After a point of being on vacation and drinking a bit more I started having the symptoms you all speak of - racing heart, palpitations, sweating, etc. I hated to leave the house except that I had to get more liquor.

Oddly enough after I started tossing it back these things would disappear. I went through four hours of sipping and then would sleep about four hours, only to wake up with the same symptoms. Then I started dry heaving along with the other stuff. Miraculously, after drinking more this would all stop.

This cycle kept repeating itself. I finally went to treatment because my Dr thought I was having withdrawl (the symptoms) and that I might die if I didn't get medical intervention to quit. I spent 7 days in detox and was put on Adivan, thiamin shots and Tranxene to lessen the withdrawls. After getting out of that and into a controlled halfway house setting I had no more of the symptoms. It all took about 21 days and I've been sober and loving it for two years this month.

I'm convinced these symptoms were withdrawl as was my Dr. She said it was a classic example. I just came up with a hundred other things it must have been - anxiety, vitamin shortage, dehydrated, I even did the magnesium thing to no avail. I finally had to admit it.

The short test is to drink when you get your symtoms and see if they go away. If they do you may be having withdrawl symptoms - better get help - bad news is on the way! If anyone is here let me know and I'll leave an e-mail addy for an off list discussion.

Thanks for hearing me out - Treb

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on November 27, 2003, at 14:10:47

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by treb on November 20, 2003, at 23:48:40

> Don't know if anyone is still reading this but I can offer my experience. I had been drinking about 30 years and never had any ill affects. After a point of being on vacation and drinking a bit more I started having the symptoms you all speak of - racing heart, palpitations, sweating, etc. I hated to leave the house except that I had to get more liquor.
>
> Oddly enough after I started tossing it back these things would disappear. I went through four hours of sipping and then would sleep about four hours, only to wake up with the same symptoms. Then I started dry heaving along with the other stuff. Miraculously, after drinking more this would all stop.
>
> This cycle kept repeating itself. I finally went to treatment because my Dr thought I was having withdrawl (the symptoms) and that I might die if I didn't get medical intervention to quit. I spent 7 days in detox and was put on Adivan, thiamin shots and Tranxene to lessen the withdrawls. After getting out of that and into a controlled halfway house setting I had no more of the symptoms. It all took about 21 days and I've been sober and loving it for two years this month.
>
> I'm convinced these symptoms were withdrawl as was my Dr. She said it was a classic example. I just came up with a hundred other things it must have been - anxiety, vitamin shortage, dehydrated, I even did the magnesium thing to no avail. I finally had to admit it.
>
> The short test is to drink when you get your symtoms and see if they go away. If they do you may be having withdrawl symptoms - better get help - bad news is on the way! If anyone is here let me know and I'll leave an e-mail addy for an off list discussion.
>
> Thanks for hearing me out - Treb


Treb that is weird that I would get these after only 7 years of drinking or so and only on weekends, I can get withdrawls from that? I think I have Candida problems and it makes it worse, so I will try to handle that and try to straighten out digestion because I have read it can cause horrible anxiety and depression, among other things with Carbs, Yeast and so on that beer has in it!!! I admit I go overboard when I drink and tend to have too much one night a week, then spend the next day trying to drink that off and feel better, so yes I get that and it does go away when you drink some more (Withdrawls like you said). This won't ever go away if you keep drinking like you do (To anyone), you have to either cut way back or quit because we have our minds trained already and when we drink this is an automatic reaction and will continue, something that used to be so fun is now scary and a problem at times. Hope I can help you guys furthmore, Treb you can drop your email or email me at scagney@comcast.net to discuss this further.......

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Caleb96 on November 27, 2003, at 20:37:38

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on November 27, 2003, at 14:10:47

I posted my story on another thread back in Spetember. I hope it will be of use to heavy drinkers. Alcohol is poison when abused for years.

In reply to Alcohol Sucks!, posted by BarbaraCat on September 1, 2003, at 13:45:17

Dear BarbCat:

Unfortunately alcohol does suck for a lot of us. My 79 year-old dad can have his ONE martini before dinner every night. He's been doing that for close to 60 years. In my 45 years, I've never seen him drunk or out of control. He still works, not because he has to, but because he enjoys it. He's never had health problems, lost his house, family or a job, had a DUI, or ruined a friendship because of alcohol. He can drink because he can control his intake.

As for his son--myself--he can't touch the stuff. About five years ago, I was rushed to the hospital with excruciating abdominal pain. Twenty years of heavy, steadily increasing alcohol consumption--starting in college--had finally caught up with me. I thought I DESERVED to drink because of all the stress I had to deal with on the job.

At the hospital, they ran all the blood chem tests, took x-rays, did ultrasound on my gall bladder, even did a colonoscopy. I still remember the ER doctor squinting at my x-ray--trying hard to find an explanation for my unbearable pain. My wife sat beside me in tears, holding my hand as if she was about to lose me for good. Finally the test results came back. Everything was normal except some slightly elevated enzymes. I could see the doctor still pacing up and down the freshly polished hallway, still holding my x-ray up to the fluorescent lights.

Finally, he walked back into my small examining room. "Do you drink?", he asked.
"Yes", I sheepishly said.
"How much?"
"Probably too much," I answered, dreading what I knew was coming next. How will I ever get through life without alcohol?, I thought to myself.
"On average, how much would you say you drink in a week?", the doctor asked.
I responded, "about a bottle of wine a day." This was definitely a under-estimate when you consider all the bottles of extra stout beer and 86 proof scotch I kept hidden in my basement workshop. There was also the half-gallon of 100 proof Vodka I kept in the kitchen liquor cabinet. A good stiff shot of that in between glasses of wine or beer really hit the spot. I'd be flying. No more problems to worry about!
Or so I thought.
"Mr. C-----," said the doctor, "what you have is an acute case of pancreatitis, and I'm pretty sure in your case it was brought on by chronic, heavy alcohol intake. Now, pancreatitis is--as I'm sure you're aware--generally considered one of the top ten most painful medical conditions. It's your pancreas literally digesting itself. For reasons we're not totally sure of, chronic alcohol consumption can trigger your pancreas to release its digestive enzymes within the organ itself."
Of course, I knew this all too well since I was finishing my PhD in nutrition. My God, I should have known better I thought to myself!
He continued, "In about 10% of the cases, it's fatal. Now, you're still young and in relatively good health. We treat cases like yours by giving IV fluids, painkillers, and withholding food until your pancreas has a chance to heal itself. Fortunately in your case, you should be better in a day or two."
"But"--he added--"if you continue to drink this problem will recur, and each time it will be more painful and more damaging, until...well, there just won't be anything we'll be able to do for you. Statistically, from the time a person is first hospitalized due to alcohol, if they continue to drink, their life expectancy is 15 years."
"You have a beautiful wife who loves you very much, and you can have a long, full life--but you have to stop drinking."

That was probaly the best advice anyone has ever given me. And I took it.

At first, I went to a few AA meetings, but I found that I couldn't really relate to all the tragic experiences these people had gone through. It just wasn't for me. But I would never put it down because it does help many people. I found it was just easier for me to quit and not think about it. If I'm at a party and someone tries to give me a drink, I just tell them I don't drink. If they get too pushy, I'll tell them I'm an alcoholic. It's not something I'm ashamed of. I would be ashamed if I still drank.

So that's my story. I can't tell you how many months, days, hours, etc. I've been sober. That kind of trivia is irrelevant to me. I can only tell you I'm much happier and healthier since I made the decision to be sober for life.

So good luck on your quest to sobriety. You recognize you have a problem and that's the most important start. Now figure out what route you want to take to kick alcohol for good. You can do it.

Best wishes--Caleb


 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P

Posted by dms777smd on November 30, 2003, at 23:50:09

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on November 16, 2003, at 17:23:59

You know,,,,I feel the same when I drink.Have you ever thought about withdrawals???I used to go through those bad,but now I drink,,,then the next day I feel like I'm going through it again kinda...Fast heart,sweating,sometimes hallucinations.A lot.

 

Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Caleb96

Posted by KimberlyDi on December 1, 2003, at 13:03:26

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Caleb96 on November 27, 2003, at 20:37:38

Caleb:

Thank you for that post. It helps to remember that there is peace out there for the sober, and a reason to feel proud instead of ashamed.

I know pride is sinful but I believe it is better for the non-practicing alcoholic to focus on the good things of today instead of the failures in the past.

God Bless
KDi in TX

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P, posted by dms777smd on November 30, 2003, at 23:50:09

I didn't really know you could get withdrawls from doing it just on the weekends mainly :( I didn't know the symptoms of it man, but yes it is possible because I binge drink on the weekends usually. My heart doesn't really race all day anymore like it did because of supplements I take like Niacin and Magnesium, but the weird feel and panic type attacks still come, and the adrenaline type rushes in your body still come bad. I wake up at 7 or 8 usually with them and have trouble sleeping on and off after that. I don't know what it is, but I am on Candida stuff right now and my anxiety is doing alot better and I am not fiending to drink anymore that much! None at all during the week, infact I didn't even drink Saturday for once. Candida can cause anxiety and yeast, sugar and carbs feed it, all in beer, so some in here could have that too and it gets a ton worse with alcohol. I get a sore throat after drinking and can't breath the next day hardly, really annoying and scary.


Sean

> You know,,,,I feel the same when I drink.Have you ever thought about withdrawals???I used to go through those bad,but now I drink,,,then the next day I feel like I'm going through it again kinda...Fast heart,sweating,sometimes hallucinations.A lot.

 

Thanks DMS777 for your thoughts...

Posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:38:37

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by treb on November 20, 2003, at 23:48:40

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/withdraw/a/aa030307a.htm

I have no doubt it is withdrawls now, I didn't know that you could just be a weekend drinker for years and get bombed and sooner or later get these!!! It says you don't have to drink everyday to get them, it depends on how much you drink when you drink too, and with the symptoms I get mild ones no doubt, I even hallucinated one night after getting these stupid things, and it wasn't the night after I was even drinking (I heard my moms voice and jumped up and so on, was very confused out of my sleep). Withrawls are what it seems everyone who is on here has, even weekend drinkers, I guess you get them after years of drinking and your body becomes dependant on it and your blood levels of alcohol drops, you need more to even you out again. I know what it is now, thanks.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Marlin on December 1, 2003, at 22:08:16

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20

Hey Sean, I've recently looked into the possibility of having too much Candida and purchased some bottles of stuff at a nutrition store. I almost went to see my doctor first, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble since treatment is harmless. Did you get an official diagnosis before you started your Candida treatment? And what are you using? Web searches always turn up this Three Lac stuff... but it's expensive... plus it's a multi-level marketing company that's pushing it.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 11:56:16

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Marlin on December 1, 2003, at 22:08:16

I did the spit test for Candida in the water that they say is 100% accurate on the threelac page, it looked exactly like they said it would, plus I am having die off symptoms from the threelac as we speak!!!! I didn't really need a diagnosis because I have read and know someone who told me the cleanse or probiotics etc. are very safe at a natural grocer, plus she deals with Candida and said your symptoms are all pointing to that. Threelac is working bettert than anything I have used so far, the price so far has been well worth it, plus if you get it and gake one packet a day it will last for two months (It says stay on it for three months to make sure it is getting rided from your body). I am going to a Doctors soon to discuss this with him no doubt, but for now I am just using Threelac and it appears to be VERY GOOD. I will keep you posted.

> Hey Sean, I've recently looked into the possibility of having too much Candida and purchased some bottles of stuff at a nutrition store. I almost went to see my doctor first, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble since treatment is harmless. Did you get an official diagnosis before you started your Candida treatment? And what are you using? Web searches always turn up this Three Lac stuff... but it's expensive... plus it's a multi-level marketing company that's pushing it.

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P

Posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20

Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? dms777smd

Posted by KimberlyDi on December 2, 2003, at 16:05:40

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P, posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15

Alcoholics, especially those that have a weakness for whiskey shots, can have numerous throat/lung problems... anywhere from chronic bronchitus to even throat cancer (if i remember it correctly). The fumes from alcohol are hazardous to ones respiratory system. Definately an irritant.

The dehydration is a serious concern (alcohol is a diuretic). Hospitals will try to treat that right off through an IV. I've heard that orange juice & banannas are recommended if you're withdrawaling at home (to replace zinc & potassium?) If one couldn't keep anything down, it would be time to see the doctor and ask for something for the naseau and if you're lucky, librium for outpatient withdrawal. My combo for surviving was cherry coolaide & chicken noodle soup (not mixed together).

Regards to earlier posts about the weekend bingers... two 5ths of Jack Daniels (3000 calories a piece) consumed within 48 hours can leave a weekend drinker contemplating the wonders of withdrawal.

You've got nowhere to go but down if you continue the pattern. I haven't had to suffer from that for over 1.5 years. My whole life had to change.

Candida, I believe, is a reacurring yeast infection. Guess what an alcohol abuser has a high level of? high blood sugar levels!! and yeast thrives on that.

KDi in TX

> Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 17:02:32

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? Sean P, posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15

Okay I can tell you a little bit man, but you might want to search Google and Metacrawler for more symptoms. Candida is the unfriendly bacteria we get in our stomachs when we use antibiotics from a Doctor (Have you used some?) or eat sugars, carbs and so on, it feeds and grows on those sort of foods, hence Beer has sugars and Carbs (Yeast too) etc. in it, which in case can make you have a flair up and feel really weak or sick the next day. When we have enough good bacteria equal with the bad bacteria (Candida or Yeast) your system is running alot better and the good bacteria can stop toxins from entering your blood stream and other parts of your body, but when that fine balance is thrown off you can get really sick and develop allergies to food and environment, anxiety, depression, cloudy head, itching, dry skin and so on, your immune system weakens and can't filter toxins as well, hence beer as a toxin and your body not being able to filter it as well through the liver and so on. It is a very hard condition to get rid of but it is possible with diet and certain acidophilus, bacteria, lactic acid and so on products, I myself am using Threelac where there is supposed to be no diet needed, plus drinking apple Cider Vinegar in water 3 times a day (2 tsp) for enzymes. Alchohol consumption over time kills good bacteria and brings on yeast and bad bacteria and they continue to thrive the more you drink, which can lead to various health problems sooner or later. Hope I helped you some, if not look it up on the net or buy a book about Leaky Gut disorders and Candida.


> Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???

 

Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??

Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 17:05:40

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?? dms777smd, posted by KimberlyDi on December 2, 2003, at 16:05:40

You hit everything right on the head, great post and great analyses on Candida and what it thrives off of, BEER and LIQUOR, plus it can cause Hypoglycemia like you said. Yes you drink OJ and eat fruits to recover your minerals, I have a mix at home I use to do that I found off the net, but like you said not doing it in the first place is the right idea!!! Great post.

> Alcoholics, especially those that have a weakness for whiskey shots, can have numerous throat/lung problems... anywhere from chronic bronchitus to even throat cancer (if i remember it correctly). The fumes from alcohol are hazardous to ones respiratory system. Definately an irritant.
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> The dehydration is a serious concern (alcohol is a diuretic). Hospitals will try to treat that right off through an IV. I've heard that orange juice & banannas are recommended if you're withdrawaling at home (to replace zinc & potassium?) If one couldn't keep anything down, it would be time to see the doctor and ask for something for the naseau and if you're lucky, librium for outpatient withdrawal. My combo for surviving was cherry coolaide & chicken noodle soup (not mixed together).
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> Regards to earlier posts about the weekend bingers... two 5ths of Jack Daniels (3000 calories a piece) consumed within 48 hours can leave a weekend drinker contemplating the wonders of withdrawal.
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> You've got nowhere to go but down if you continue the pattern. I haven't had to suffer from that for over 1.5 years. My whole life had to change.
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> Candida, I believe, is a reacurring yeast infection. Guess what an alcohol abuser has a high level of? high blood sugar levels!! and yeast thrives on that.
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> KDi in TX
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> > Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???
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Candida die-off symptoms

Posted by Marlin on December 13, 2003, at 10:54:08

In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS??, posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 11:56:16

Hey Sean,
What are your die-off symptoms?? And how is your treatment going? I just bought 3-lac + Oxidation thing.


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