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The chocolate Amphetamine??

Posted by makaveli on August 5, 2003, at 2:30:29

Anyone know about phenylethylamine? It sounds like more work should be done to stimulate it.Anyone know the specifics?

 

Re: The chocolate Amphetamine?? » makaveli

Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 5, 2003, at 11:44:42

In reply to The chocolate Amphetamine??, posted by makaveli on August 5, 2003, at 2:30:29

Chemical Name: beta-phenethylamine
Common Name(s): Phenethylamine, PEA
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S.; precursor to all the phenethylamines; is usually low in the urine of depressives, and high in the urine of paranoid schizophrenics; though a stimulant, because of its rapid metabolism it has no effect in man

All the amphetamines and substituted amphetamines are part of a class known as a whole as the phenethylamines. Some stimulants from this class include:

Chemical name: 4-methylthioamphetamine
Common Name(s): 4-MTA, Flatliner, Goldeneagle Facts: A research chemical--not controlled or regulated in the U.S. (yet); mild stimulation (less than amphetamines or MDMA) lasting about 12 hours; potent serotonin releaser

Chemical Name: N-benzyl-N,alpha-dimethylbenzeneethanamine
Common Name(s): Benzphetamine, Benzfetamine, Didrex
Facts: Schedule III controlled substance in the U.S.; prescribed for weight loss

Chemical Name: 2-aminopropiophenone
Common Name(s): Cathinone, Kat, Jeff, Mulka, Ephedrone
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; often sold falsely as methamphetamine due to being extremely easy to manufacture, even for "kitchen" chemists

Chemical Name: (±)-alpha-methylphenethylamine Common Name(s): Amphetamine, Phenedrine, Psychedrine, Actodron, Allodene, Adipan, Sympatedrine, Isomyn, Isoamyne, Mecodrin, Norephedrane, Novydrine, Elastonon, Ortedrine, Profamina, Propisaine, Sympamine, Simpatedrin
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; occasionally prescribed for ADHD, narcolepsy, and obesity, though other amphetamines, methylphenidate, and Strattera have largely replaced its use due to undesirable peripheral side effects

Chemical Name: alpha-1-Methylaminoethylbenzene-methanol
Common Name(s): Ephedrine, MiniThins
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; contributes to a substantial number of deaths each year and/or health problems; commonly employed as a caffeine or amphetamine substituted by addicts; added to OTC diet products due to its appetite-suppressant qualities

Chemical Name: (-)-alpha-methylphenethylamine
Common Name(s): l-Amphetamine
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; not considered by recreational users to be as "fun" as the other common amphetamines

Chemical Name: (+)-alpha-methylphenethylamine
Common Name(s): Dextroamphetamine, d-Amphetamine, Dexedrine, DextroStat, Dex, Dexie
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; commonly prescribed for ADD/ADHD and narcolepsy; considered by recreational users to be more "fun" than l-amphetamine; effects last about 6 hours

Chemical Name: trifluoromethylphenethylamine.
Common Name(s): Fenfluramine, Pondimin {the "Fen" in Phen-Fen)
Facts: Schedule IV controlled substance in the U.S.; part of the weight loss prescription "Phen-Fen"; removed from the market after cases of heart trouble resulting from use of the drug arose

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylenedioxy-1-propenylbenzene
Common Name(s): Isosafrole
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; precursor to MDMA

Chemical Name: N-methylamphetamine
Common Name(s): Methamphetamine, Desoxyn, Meth, Crystal Meth, Ice
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; occasionally prescribed for ADD/ADHD and narcolepsy; duration of action about twice as long as other amphetamines; unlike other common amphetamines, causes significant serotonin release

Chemical Name: 2-methylaminopropiophenone
Common Name(s): Methcathinone, Kat, Jeff, Mulka, Ephedrone
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; often sold falsely as methamphetamine

Chemical Name: alpha-phenyl-2-piperidineacetic acid methyl ester
Common Name(s): Methylphenidate, Ritalin, Ritalin SR, Concerta, Metadate
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; often prescribed for ADD/ADHD and narcolepsy, occasionally for obesity and depression (especially in the elderly); causes more peripheral side effects than amphetamines

Chemical Name: alpha-amino-beta-phenylpropionic acid
Common Name(s): Phenylalanine
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S.; amino acid important for the production of certain brain neurotransmitters (e.g. dopamine, norepinephrine); a mild stimulant

Chemical Name: 2-amino-1-phenyl-1-propanol
Common Name(s): Phenylpropanolamine, PPA
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; the ingredient found in many OTC cold remedies that has been said to cause strokes

Chemical Name: 4-methoxyamphetamine
Common Name(s): Paramethoxyamphetamine, PMA, 4-MA
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; toxic--sometimes misrepresented and sold as MDMA, or found mixed with MDMA

Chemical Name: alpha-1-methylaminoethylbenzyl alcohol
Common Name(s): Pseudoephedrine, Sudafed
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; used for nasal decongestion; precursor to some amphetamines; differs from cathinone only by the addition of an alpha-hydroxy group and hydrogen group; likewise, methamphetamine differs only by the addition of two hydrogen groups

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The most relevant psycheledelic (and related) phenethylamines are:

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylene-dioxyallylbenzene
Common Name(s): Safrole
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; found in nutmeg, cinnamon, juniper, calamus, and many other plants; non-amine prescursor to 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

Chemical Name: 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-allylbenzene
Common Name(s): Myristicin
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S.; powerful hallucinogen found in nutmeg; non-amine precursor to MMDA

Chemical Name: cis-1-propenyl-2,4,5-trimethoxybenzol
Common Name(s): beta-asarone
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S.; possesses relaxant and stimulant effects; one active constituent of the psychedelic herb calamus

Chemical Name: 2,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine
Common Name(s): TMA-2
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; causes hypnosis in most people; mildly empathogenic, like MDMA

Chemical Name: 2-methoxy-4-2-propenylphenol
Common Name(s): Eugenol
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S.; found in nutmeg and cinnamon; used in the synthesis of safrole, a precursor to MDMA

Chemical Name: 2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromoamphetamine
Common Name(s): DOB, 4-Bromo-DMA, Bob, Dr. Bob (lol!!!!!)
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; effects similar to 2C-B, but several times longer in duration

Chemical Name: 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine
Common Name(s): DOM, STP (has been said to stand for Serenity, Tranquility, and Peace, Super Terrific Psychedelic, or Stop The Police; actually, it was named after the motor oil additive, STP... why? Who knows.)
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; r-isomer responsible for psychedelic effects, s-isomer responsible for peripheral side effects

Chemical Name: phenyl-2-propanone
Common Name(s): P2P, Phenylacetone
Facts: Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S.; a common precursor to amphetamine

Chemical Name: 2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
Common Name(s): DMA
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; mescaline-like effects;

Chemical Name: 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylamphetamine
Common Name(s): DOET
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; mildly psychedelic, relaxing, with an uplift in mood and libido

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone
Common Name(s): MDP2P
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; precursor to MDMA, MDA, and related chemicals

Chemical Name: monomethylamine
Common Name(s): Methylamine
Facts: List I regulated chemical in the U.S.; important reagant in the synthesis of MDMA and methamphetamine

Chemical Name: 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine
Common Name(s): Mescaline
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; found in peyote, San Pedro, and several other species of cacti--of these, peyote is the only one that is currently illegal; peyote currently legal for use by Native Americans, for religious purposes

Chemical Name: N-methyl-alpha-ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethylamine
Common Name(s): Methyl-J, Eden
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; less stimulating, more relaxing, and with less visual activity than MDMA; at higher doses, almost exactly like MDMA in effects

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-ethylamphetamine
Common Name(s): MDE, N-Ethyl-MDA, MDEA, Eve
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; slightly less potent mg for mg than MDMA and shorter-acting; greatly resembles MDMA in effects, though physical and tactile effects are less prevalent; may resemble MDA at larger doses; empathogenic effects not so pronounced as with MDMA; has a "stoning" effect for some people

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine
Common Name(s): MDMA, Ecstasy, XTC, X, E
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; the most powerful empathogen and most useful tool in therapy (especially couples' therapy) currently known

Chemical Name: 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
Common Name(s): MDA, Adam, Love Drug
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; similar to MDMA, but less empathogenic and more stimulating

Chemical Name: 2,5-dimethoxy-4-propylthiophenethylamine
Common Name(s): 2C-T-7, T7, Blue Mystic
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.; CSA sceduling expires September 30th of these year

Chemical Name: 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine
Common Name(s): 2C-B, Nexus
Facts: Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S.

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And some phenethylamines in general:

Chemical Name: 3,4-dihydroxyphenethylamine
Common Name(s): Dopamine
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S., but prescription only; an endogenous brain chemical largely responsible for movement and pleasure; used medically in emergency situations of advanced heart failure when the use of digoxin is contraindicated

Chemical Name: phenethylhydrazine hydrogen sulphate
Common Name(s): Phenelzine Sulphate, Nardil
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S., but prescription only; antidepressant--non-selective MAO inhibitor

Chemical Name: (±)-1-alpha-dimethylaminomethyl-
p-methoxybenzyl cyclohexanol hydrochloride
Common Name(s): Venlafaxine HCl, Effexor, Effexor XR
Facts: Not controlled or regulated in the U.S., but prescription only; antidepressant--strong inhibitor of serotonin, moderate reuptake inhibitor of norepinephrine, and weak reuptake inhibitor of dopamine

 

Amino acids and vitamins » makaveli

Posted by DSCH on August 6, 2003, at 12:15:14

In reply to The chocolate Amphetamine??, posted by makaveli on August 5, 2003, at 2:30:29

> Anyone know about phenylethylamine? It sounds like more work should be done to stimulate it.Anyone know the specifics?

D-phenylalanine will cross the blood brain barrier and get converted to Beta-phenylethylamine. I'm not aware of a co-enzyme that might expedite this conversion.

The L-form is the starting point for the production of dopamine and norepinephrine. Vitamins B3, B6, and C help this conversion.

DLPA, B3 (or NADH), C, and B6 (or PLP) appear to be suppliments worth trying.

Ref:
http://www.endotoxin.gmxhome.de/
http://www.mind-boosters.com/

 

Selegiline and PEA » makaveli

Posted by DSCH on August 6, 2003, at 13:44:59

In reply to The chocolate Amphetamine??, posted by makaveli on August 5, 2003, at 2:30:29

Selegiline when taken at low doses (< 10-15 mg/day) is a MAO-B inhibitor without the full MAO-A effect (and hence does not require the low tyrosine diet). MAO-B is what breaks down PEA. Selegiline itself is structurally close to PEA and is metabolized into amphetamines in the brain (though at low doses this effect shouldn't be very great).

 

Vigorous physical exercise increases PEA (nm)

Posted by BekkaH on August 6, 2003, at 18:39:36

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