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Re: provigil Edgefield

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 8, 2003, at 8:21:49

In reply to Re: provigil blondegirl47, posted by Edgefield on July 7, 2003, at 17:30:31

I believe it was 300. They were really weird hives too. It was almost like really red scaly skin. It took about a week of lots of lotion and aveeno bath to cure it.
Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by Craig Getty on July 9, 2003, at 0:53:51

In reply to provigil, posted by blondegirl47 on July 7, 2003, at 12:48:24

I don't think there is generic Provigil yet - at least not in the U.S.

I have been on it for several months. I added to Wellbutrin because I was frequently tired and had trouble focusing and getting stuff done. (Before Provigil, I had tried Ritalin, which didn't work consistently and eventually just made me very moody after a half hour speed-like effect). Provigil is nice because it's subtle. The main side effect I had has been upset stomache. I originally started at 100mg and now take 200 mg - sometimes 300 or 400 mg if I have a lot of work to do or if I am going to be up late at a party or something. The downside of the subtle effect is that there are days when I feel it doesn't do much more than a cup of coffee - and I just get an "awake, but still exhausted" feeling.

For the past month I have left Wellbutrin for Nardil. Nardil lacks the stimulating effect of Wellbutrin, so I think that I might at some point have to switch from Provigil to something stronger (perhaps Adderrall).


> Hi All
>
> My pdoc just wrote me a prescription for provigil(modafinil) Would anyone who has tried this please tell me what they thought of it. Also, does it have a generic. It is very expensive!
> Thanks
> Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil Craig Getty

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 9, 2003, at 8:02:33

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Craig Getty on July 9, 2003, at 0:53:51

Thanks for the info Craig. I am on adderall as well. My pdoc thought provigil would help with that coming down feeling when my short acting wares off. Does the upset stomach get better with time. I only too 100mg yesterday and my tummy was very upset.

Do you eat before you take it? I'm wishing I would have thought of getting samples from my pdoc before I paid 40 bucks for my prescription. I have read good stuff about provigil, like after a few months it can improve your memory...its also supposed to improve your mood. Does it do that for you?
Thanks
Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by Craig Getty on July 9, 2003, at 13:33:20

In reply to Re: provigil Craig Getty, posted by blondegirl47 on July 9, 2003, at 8:02:33

Hey Blondegirl,

Have you heard of other people who are on both adderrall and provigil at the same time? It seems that if the provigil works for you should be able to stop the adderrall since they're both there as stimulants. I personally had stopped Ritalin completely before starting Provigil. Are your main issues ADD or is there depression and/or anxiety as well?

Give it a couple of weeks for your stomach to get better as your body adjusts. I find eating whole wheat and grains help the stomach - but I don't always follow that advice as I can often be a fast food junkie. As far as dosage goes, you might find that 100mg doesn't do enough for you. I started at 100mg just to make sure there weren't any adverse effects, then after a week switched to the 200mg.

I don't have a set pattern of whether or not I eat before I take it. I haven't kept any records, but my thoughts are that if I take it with food, then it's better for my stomach. However, I believe that I feel the stimulating effects more when I take it on an empty stomach. So it's a toss up.

I don't think it has had any significant effect on my memory but that's hard to quantify. Because I don't get as sleepy during the day, I am able to concentrate better so maybe that's what they mean. These meds all come with their bag of *magic* claims so take it all in stride. As far as mood, I haven't found that it works as an antidepressant - I'm on Nardil for that. However...Provigil allows me to not have to nap as often during the day and it gave me more energy to get more work done and socialize more - and these factors lead to more self-esteem and less beating myself up for being lazy.

The free samples are a great idea, I hope my doc has them. I think I'm now paying about $30 for it, but, because it's not something that is *regulary* covered by my plan, I actually have to shell out $180 up front and then wait several months for my insurance company to reimburse me. And for the initial $360 I wasn't even reimbursed because I had to reach the deductible. It sucks!

-Craig.

 

Re: provigil blondegirl47

Posted by fallsfall on July 9, 2003, at 18:56:56

In reply to Re: provigil Craig Getty, posted by blondegirl47 on July 9, 2003, at 8:02:33

My nausea has gone away with time. But it did take a while. You can get Ginger capsules in the health food store which help a lot. I still take mine after food, but I haven't tried in a long time to see if it still matters.

 

Re: provigil Craig Getty

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 10, 2003, at 10:58:01

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Craig Getty on July 9, 2003, at 13:33:20

Hi Craig

Thanks for your post.

It was the doc's idea to keep taking my adderall. I have noticed feeling a little edgy. Its weird, can you be wired and tired at the same time. I seem to be functioning ok. Except every once in a while, I can't think of certain works when I talking...thats probably a menopause thing. :O

This week I will take with food...I don't think 100mg is enough. Maybe tomorrow after lunch I will try 200 and not take my adderall.

How long do the dizzy's last. I hate that feeling, thank goodness its intemittent.

Thanks again for the info
Later Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil fallsfall

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 10, 2003, at 11:00:48

In reply to Re: provigil blondegirl47, posted by fallsfall on July 9, 2003, at 18:56:56

Thanks for your post fallsfall. I will give it a while. I would like to try it without food to see if it kicks in better.
Later Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil blondegirl47

Posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 15:56:46

In reply to Re: provigil fallsfall, posted by blondegirl47 on July 10, 2003, at 11:00:48

The dizziness has also gone away, but it did take a long time for that to disappear.

 

Re: provigil fallsfall

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 10, 2003, at 16:00:01

In reply to Re: provigil blondegirl47, posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 15:56:46

Good to know that goes away. What dose do you take?

Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil blondegirl47

Posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 20:03:12

In reply to Re: provigil fallsfall, posted by blondegirl47 on July 10, 2003, at 16:00:01

I take 200mg in the morning.

 

Re: provigil

Posted by jemma on July 11, 2003, at 8:57:38

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Craig Getty on July 9, 2003, at 13:33:20


Actually, provigil and adderall are very different drugs. I take 200 mg modafinil to keep me awake, alert and energetic, but it does nothing for my concentration - in fact, all the energy scatters me. I need ritalin to calm my brain enough to let me focus. My pdoc says they're not additive, they're complementary.

- Jemma

> Have you heard of other people who are on both adderrall and provigil at the same time? It seems that if the provigil works for you should be able to stop the adderrall since they're both there as stimulants. I personally had stopped Ritalin completely before starting Provigil. Are your main issues ADD or is there depression and/or anxiety as well?
>

 

Re: provigil jemma

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 11, 2003, at 10:01:45

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by jemma on July 11, 2003, at 8:57:38

Thanks Jemma. Did you experience upset tummy and dizzyness. I am finding this hard to take. I took 200 mg an hour before my 20mg adderall and my head in really dizzy.

Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil blondegirl47

Posted by jemma on July 12, 2003, at 8:41:08

In reply to Re: provigil jemma, posted by blondegirl47 on July 11, 2003, at 10:01:45

I take 100 mg of provigil first thing in the morning, then the other 100mg around noon. That way, I find I avoid any headache or spaciness. I also take it with food - it slows down the absorption rate a little, but the ultimate effect is the same and it's a more gradual, easy-on-the-tummy process. Also, one reason I love provigil is that if you find it too much, you can just cut back the dose without any withdrawal. In fact, one day a week, I skip it so I can have a nice long sleep-in.

best of luck -

Jemma


> Thanks Jemma. Did you experience upset tummy and dizzyness. I am finding this hard to take. I took 200 mg an hour before my 20mg adderall and my head in really dizzy.
>
> Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil jemma

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 12, 2003, at 10:26:52

In reply to Re: provigil blondegirl47, posted by jemma on July 12, 2003, at 8:41:08

thanks, Jemma. I will try with food again and split the dose. My tummy is upset again today. Seems like about an hour after I eat. I wonder if my adderall is starting to upset my tummy. I take it with 40 mg prilosec, on an empty stomach. I think I will have a no med day tomorrow to see if that helps. thanks for your post :)
p.s. did it bum you out at first?

Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by Ravenwitch on July 13, 2003, at 20:19:27

In reply to provigil, posted by blondegirl47 on July 7, 2003, at 12:48:24

I have had sleep apnea for 6 years now and although I sleep with a CPAP machine, I was still very tired at work. My sleep doctor prescribed Provigil and WOW! I feel like a new man. I am wide awake during the day and have no problems sleeping at night. In fact, since starting with this drug I tend to sleep longer in the morning which is good.

It did take some time to get the dosage to a point that worked for me, but once I got there I was hooked! I take half a pill in the morning and half at lunch which is a total of 200mg.

I have heard of people taking up to 600mg a day! I think I would crawl out of my skin! LOL!!

Hope this helps!

Ravenwitch

 

Re: provigil Ravenwitch

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 14, 2003, at 17:49:36

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Ravenwitch on July 13, 2003, at 20:19:27

Thanks, Ravenwitch. Thats kind of what I am doing now. Did provigil upset your stomach at first. I have been taking it with food...which seems to help, but slows down response time by an hour.
Thanks for your input
Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by Ravenwitch on July 15, 2003, at 7:57:44

In reply to Re: provigil Ravenwitch, posted by blondegirl47 on July 14, 2003, at 17:49:36

Blondegirl,

Yes it did and still sometimes does upset my stomach. My sleep doctor told me to take it as needed, so somedays if I know I will just be laying around the house watching movies or something I don't even bother.

But as far as the stomach thing is concerned, that is one of the more common side effects. I would have to assume as with any other med that the side effects will wear off with time.

Hope I helped a bit!

Ravenwitch

> Thanks, Ravenwitch. Thats kind of what I am doing now. Did provigil upset your stomach at first. I have been taking it with food...which seems to help, but slows down response time by an hour.
> Thanks for your input
> Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil Ravenwitch

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 8:06:38

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Ravenwitch on July 15, 2003, at 7:57:44

Thanks again Ravenwitch. Your info has been very helpful. I can't remember if I asked you if you take it with food?

The tummy thing is getting better, but I'm still not sure this stuff is worth 40 bucks a month.

Any ideas on why you can't drink alchol on the same day you take provogil?

Have a great day
Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by Ravenwitch on July 15, 2003, at 8:50:10

In reply to Re: provigil Ravenwitch, posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 8:06:38

I always eat something before taking any kind of medication. Just a habit I got into.

As far as the alchohol is concerned, the company that makes Provigil has not tested enough to know the implications. I have had a beer or two while taking Provigil and the only thing I noticed was a killer headache the next day.

My friend takes it as well and parties constantly without any problems. I guess each person is different?

Ravenwitch

> Thanks again Ravenwitch. Your info has been very helpful. I can't remember if I asked you if you take it with food?
>
> The tummy thing is getting better, but I'm still not sure this stuff is worth 40 bucks a month.
>
> Any ideas on why you can't drink alchol on the same day you take provogil?
>
> Have a great day
> Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil Ravenwitch

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 8:56:58

In reply to Re: provigil, posted by Ravenwitch on July 15, 2003, at 8:50:10

Thanks Ravenwitch, I usually know in advance when I will be drinking, so I will just by pass provigil that day. :)

Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac blondegirl47

Posted by utopizen on July 15, 2003, at 10:51:12

In reply to Re: provigil Ravenwitch, posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 8:06:38

Hey,

I haven't tried Provigil (it's on my wish list along with Xyrem of trying to enter Superman status).

But I do take Desoxyn, which often hurts my tummy. When it does, I use Zantac 75. Ask your PHARMACIST first, but it should do the trick, and it's over the counter.

 

Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac utopizen

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 12:15:49

In reply to Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac blondegirl47, posted by utopizen on July 15, 2003, at 10:51:12

Thanks utopizen, I take 40 mg prilosec with my meds. The upset tummy thing is getting better. I would definitly ask the doc for samples before spending money on this stuff.

How did you get your pdoc to give you Desoxyn, mine didn't think it was a good idea at all.

Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac

Posted by utopizen on July 15, 2003, at 16:23:57

In reply to Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac utopizen, posted by blondegirl47 on July 15, 2003, at 12:15:49

> Thanks utopizen, I take 40 mg prilosec with my meds. The upset tummy thing is getting better. I would definitly ask the doc for samples before spending money on this stuff.
>
> How did you get your pdoc to give you Desoxyn, mine didn't think it was a good idea at all.
>
> Blondegirl

He tried all the others, Dexedrine, Ritalin, Adderall. They all made me very anxious or in the case of Dexedrine made my heart beat fast. So he switched me to Desoxyn.

Unfortunately, most doctors can't spell Desoxyn. And I'm saying most psychiatrists too.

Unfortunately, I'm out of state for three months, and for the past 2 months it's been given me depression when it wears off at the end of the day. I'm seeing a psychiatrist who I had to literally spell Desoxyn to, but then gives ME the condencending look when I ask to switch to Dex spansules. Um, hello, meth has MORE abuse potential, moron.

 

Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac utopizen

Posted by blondegirl47 on July 16, 2003, at 8:47:02

In reply to Re: provigil - consider adding Zantac, posted by utopizen on July 15, 2003, at 16:23:57

I know what you mean. I just asked my doc about dex spansules, I have read that it is much smoother than taking dexedrine tablets, which I didn't like at all.

Dextrostat worked for quite a while then kind of burned out for me.

I can't decide if this provigil is working or not. It almost seems that it makes me tired, but I seem to do less procrastinating.

Adderall doesn't seem to help with procrastinating, I can lay in bed while my mind thinks of all of the things I should be doing. :)

I guess a little self parenting might be in order :)

thanks for your post

Have a great day
Blondegirl

 

Re: provigil

Posted by jemma on July 16, 2003, at 13:36:06

In reply to Re: provigil jemma, posted by blondegirl47 on July 12, 2003, at 10:26:52


Hi blondegirl -

Provigil never bummed me out. At first, I didn't really notice anything except that it was easier to stay awake. Then, about two weeks in, I found myself sorting my kitchen cupboards for the first time in years. About two weeks after that, a low-grade depression that had been plaguing me for months just seemed to lift. It's called a mood-brightener, and that's exactly what it does for me.

Good luck -

Jemma

> thanks, Jemma. I will try with food again and split the dose. My tummy is upset again today. Seems like about an hour after I eat. I wonder if my adderall is starting to upset my tummy. I take it with 40 mg prilosec, on an empty stomach. I think I will have a no med day tomorrow to see if that helps. thanks for your post :)
> p.s. did it bum you out at first?
>
> Blondegirl


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