Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 136129

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Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?

Posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 15:14:58

Hey,

Klonopin makes me not want to talk at all, a problem at classes and parties, where girls are giving me bad looks for not coming over to them and such, yet I have this strange contenment with it all at the same time. It's really like it stops me from wanting to talk at all.

So anyone experience a difference on Xanax or Valium? Or if Klonopin does it, it's likely to do it for me with others? I take Adderall 20mg at morning, and it doesn't change this. So I don't feel like trying Provigil just to talk more.

 

Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?

Posted by Ame Sans Vie on January 16, 2003, at 20:30:17

In reply to Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?, posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 15:14:58

Xanax certainly makes me much more outgoing... even extroverted, but not disinhibited or anything. It's especially great as an add-on to Klonopin.

As for Valium, it seems to just succeed in making me more depressed when taken alone (and from reading the other posts on this board, I gather this is none too uncommon). I remember you posted a couple times to a thread I started just a few days ago concerning my own medication dilemma-- Just yesterday I got in touch with a doctor in Houston (80 miles away, but he's agreed to conduct appointments via phone) who will accept Medicaid. He faxed in prescriptions for 2mg Xanax qid, 20mg Valium bid, 4mg sublingual Ativan prn, and Klonopin 4mg bid + 30mg bid every other Sunday. Combined with the others, the Valium is doing just great. I'm sure I'll be sticking with this combo, I haven't felt so good in years.

--Michael

 

Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about oth

Posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 22:33:29

In reply to Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?, posted by Ame Sans Vie on January 16, 2003, at 20:30:17

Okay,

Why do I get the impression there are some innocent, legitimately suffering people deserving of benzos who happen to find croakers? =P

Please tell me that "30mg every other sunday Klonopin" was a typo, and you meant Valium =)

And doc appts over the phone? Did your referral come from your crack dealer or something? Lol- just kidding, hope you're doing well... wish I had as cool a doctor as you. I should be getting the name of a good psychopharma tomorrow, as promised through my p-doc.

But if you're finding people nodding in your doc's office, watch your back and your wallet =) My hypothesis of this board was basically proven two days ago- a poster had an amphetamines diverter.

> Xanax certainly makes me much more outgoing... even extroverted, but not disinhibited or anything. It's especially great as an add-on to Klonopin.
>
> As for Valium, it seems to just succeed in making me more depressed when taken alone (and from reading the other posts on this board, I gather this is none too uncommon). I remember you posted a couple times to a thread I started just a few days ago concerning my own medication dilemma-- Just yesterday I got in touch with a doctor in Houston (80 miles away, but he's agreed to conduct appointments via phone) who will accept Medicaid. He faxed in prescriptions for 2mg Xanax qid, 20mg Valium bid, 4mg sublingual Ativan prn, and Klonopin 4mg bid + 30mg bid every other Sunday. Combined with the others, the Valium is doing just great. I'm sure I'll be sticking with this combo, I haven't felt so good in years.
>
> --Michael

 

Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others? » utopizen

Posted by Ritch on January 16, 2003, at 22:55:24

In reply to Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?, posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 15:14:58

> Hey,
>
> Klonopin makes me not want to talk at all, a problem at classes and parties, where girls are giving me bad looks for not coming over to them and such, yet I have this strange contenment with it all at the same time. It's really like it stops me from wanting to talk at all.
>
> So anyone experience a difference on Xanax or Valium? Or if Klonopin does it, it's likely to do it for me with others? I take Adderall 20mg at morning, and it doesn't change this. So I don't feel like trying Provigil just to talk more.
>
>


Actually, that can be very helpful if many *other* people are perceiving you as being too talkative without the Klonopin. If you don't feel the "pressure" to talk, you might find it *more* fun to just hang out and listen to others.

 

Re: Klonopin disinhits - does not boost drive

Posted by chad_3 on January 17, 2003, at 12:41:05

In reply to Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about others?, posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 15:14:58

Doesn't sound to me like Klonopin (at least alone) will work for you.

Your initiative and motivation remains low. You are disinhibited enough to be relaxed around folks - but the above problems prevent you from taking the next step.

Your have 50% of the problem dealt with but need the other half to get any workable result.

Chad
http://www.socialfear.com/

> Hey,
>
> Klonopin makes me not want to talk at all, a problem at classes and parties, where girls are giving me bad looks for not coming over to them and such, yet I have this strange contenment with it all at the same time. It's really like it stops me from wanting to talk at all.
>
> So anyone experience a difference on Xanax or Valium? Or if Klonopin does it, it's likely to do it for me with others? I take Adderall 20mg at morning, and it doesn't change this. So I don't feel like trying Provigil just to talk more.
>
>

 

Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about oth » utopizen

Posted by Ame Sans Vie on January 17, 2003, at 13:28:46

In reply to Re: Klonopin- no drive to talk- but what about oth, posted by utopizen on January 16, 2003, at 22:33:29

lol, that was *me* whose pdoc was diverting meth. Never would've known it though... either he's very good at making himself look like a normal psychiatrist, or *all* the psychs are divertin drugs to the street, lol (actually, this is surely true to some degree, though most don't do it knowingly.)

Oh, and 30mg wasn't a typo and I didn't mean Valium, lol. This particular guy said that having some of his more debilitatingly anxious patients take a mega-dose of either Klonopin or Tranxene once every 2, 3, or 4 weeks actually brings about long-lasting results sometimes. Can't comment on that myself yet, of course... but Sunday's only two days away, and I'm sure as hell looking forward to it! lol Not that it'll be the first time I've taken 30mg Klonopin at once, but at least the first time it's legit. =P

A drug called adinazolam was also brought up during this "appointment"... I haven't looked much into it, but apparently it's a triazolobenzodiazepine with serotonin/noradrenaline reuptake inhibition properties. I know it's not available here in the States... regardless, the benzos I'm on now work absolutely without fault so why bother thinking about the next drug to try.

And as far as the dosage is concerned, he told me he doesn't expect me to very strictly adhere to it, except for the Klonopin. The V, X, & A are really all more a prn type of thing, or whatever I find works best for me. I've never had such an understanding doctor. lol, and yes, I do trust him, but only because he was **VERY* highly recommended by the University of Houston and MHMR.

I suppose it'd be wise to mention that I also take something called 'Tranquili-G', which was recommended by Dr. Gripon. It's over the counter, but the only place I could find locally was at my friendly neighborhood headshop, lol. Very good stuff though-- a GHB analogue, but with about 15% higher affinity than GHB itself. The active ingredient is 4-methyl-gamma-hydroxybutyrate. And of course it's always nice to see that little 'meth/methyl' before the chemical name of a drug we already think is great. ;-) It's technically illegal, you know, analogue act and all, but apparently they haven't cracked down on it yet, as it's available EVERYWHERE. You can't find GBL or 1,4-butanediol anymore, but this stuff's better anyways-- epecially if you're taking it for legitimate psychological reason. It doesn't give you that "liquid X" feeling most people get from GHB, but OTOH the anxiolytic/hypnotic effects are much stronger. Yeah, so what I'm basically saying is GO BUY THIS STUFF. And while yer at it, slap a billboard on my ass and call me Ronald McDonald, 'cuz I *know* this is sounding like straight-up product promotion, lol.

I'd never considered the idea of a psychopharmacologist-- definitely sounds like it's the way for you to go at this point. I'm aware the injustices bestowed upon you by pdocs in the past per your other posts, and I wish you best of luck. I know you'll keep us updated. =)

--Michael


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