Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 135579

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Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now.

Posted by Suzanne on January 12, 2003, at 20:01:53

I had been taking Nardil for 17 years. Dosage of 22 mgs a day and .5 of Clonazepan at night. When my pharmacist couldn't get it anymore, my doctor and I decided it might be best to stop it. I have been off of it for 14 days now and am going to start something new. I meet with my doctor Tuesday. I have a loss of appetite during the morning and shakiness when I wake up. I'm not sure what he will recommend. What has worked best for you?

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne

Posted by ZeeZee on January 12, 2003, at 20:27:14

In reply to Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now., posted by Suzanne on January 12, 2003, at 20:01:53

If you responded so well and could tolerate the Nardil for so many years why not stick with the MAOI's? Another to try is Parnate. I had great luck in the past when I switched from Nardil to Parnate. If you don't mind my asking what other AD's have you used and what is your dx?

Regards,
ZeeZee

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now.

Posted by Suzanne on January 12, 2003, at 20:37:12

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne, posted by ZeeZee on January 12, 2003, at 20:27:14

I haven't taken anything else. I was diagnosed with severe anxiety. The doctor doesn't want me to stay on the Parnate or Nardil, because of complications of surgery, and foods and medications to avoid. I ate everything I wasn't suppose to and didn't have any problems, but he feels it best to go off, because it is an old drug and wants to try me on a new one.

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now.

Posted by cosis on January 13, 2003, at 0:29:01

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now., posted by Suzanne on January 12, 2003, at 20:37:12

>>>but he feels it best to go off, because it is an old drug and wants to try me on a new one.

No offense but stick with what works. There might be a Nardil shortage but you can still get it. And the shortage is not going to last forever.
I don't understand why he would want to start you on a new one....

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne

Posted by ZeeZee on January 13, 2003, at 9:23:37

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now., posted by Suzanne on January 12, 2003, at 20:37:12

Maybe it's time to find a new pdoc instead. Why in the world would he want you to try something "new" if the old works and not a problem for you? All the pdocs want to push SSRI's which seem to be trouble for most of us with anxiety and panic disorder. However, they're determined to get us on one and at our expense. I'd hate to hear you go through trial after trial only finding that your symptoms are worse. For me, each trail set me back further in my recovery. It wasn't just "oh, this doesn't work and lets move on" it became a new layer in my disorder of agoraphobia, a new layer of fear and less confidence. Hard to explain, but those out there who have experienced this will tell you the same.
If your pdoc is interested in using benzo's instead then maybe he's a keeper.
Good luck and keep us posted.

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now.

Posted by zeugma on January 13, 2003, at 14:20:01

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne, posted by ZeeZee on January 13, 2003, at 9:23:37

> Maybe it's time to find a new pdoc instead. Why in the world would he want you to try something "new" if the old works and not a problem for you? All the pdocs want to push SSRI's which seem to be trouble for most of us with anxiety and panic disorder.
>
I agree completely with this statement. I went to a clinic several years ago and the pdoc there enthusiastically recommended Celexa... even though I had bad experiences on Zoloft and Prozac. My current pdoc is great, at least he listened to me when he started to write "Celexa" on my prescription. I told him the only AD I had ever done OK on was nortriptyline; and I've tried quite a few. He prescribed it for me but only because I insisted. I'm feeling better now, especially after adding Buspar (I wonder if anyone else here has tried the combo of Buspar and a TCA?). But for 10 years no one would the one medication that was at all helpful for me. SSRI's are newer and easier to prescribe but most definitely NOT necessarily "better."

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. ZeeZee

Posted by lr on June 10, 2003, at 21:41:55

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne, posted by ZeeZee on January 12, 2003, at 20:27:14

Some people respond to maois when nothing else works. I second the parnate-instead-ofnardil encouragement, excpet that i would agree that if the nardil is ok, you CAN get it, and if it works dont fix it.
For me--Nardil worked great for my mood but caused terrible weight gain. i had to go off it to have a baby and then wanted to find something without the extreme weight gain problem. I have a VERY good researcher doctor--we tried every ssri etc but finally tried parnate.
it worked and WITHOUT weight gain. I have found I can eat most things on the so-called restricted list. wine is fine. I avoid liver and very aged cheeses but a little parmesan on pasta has not been a problem. again if maois are what work for you, then be glad you have found what works.
(PS for me going OFF nardil was hell . . .)> If you responded so well and could tolerate the Nardil for so many years why not stick with the MAOI's? Another to try is Parnate. I had great luck in the past when I switched from Nardil to Parnate. If you don't mind my asking what other AD's have you used and what is your dx?
>
> Regards,
> ZeeZee

 

Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. ZeeZee

Posted by Carlos on June 13, 2003, at 22:23:19

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. Suzanne, posted by ZeeZee on January 13, 2003, at 9:23:37

> Maybe it's time to find a new pdoc instead. Why in the world would he want you to try something "new" if the old works and not a problem for you? All the pdocs want to push SSRI's which seem to be trouble for most of us with anxiety and panic disorder. However, they're determined to get us on one and at our expense. I'd hate to hear you go through trial after trial only finding that your symptoms are worse. For me, each trail set me back further in my recovery. It wasn't just "oh, this doesn't work and lets move on" it became a new layer in my disorder of agoraphobia, a new layer of fear and less confidence. Hard to explain, but those out there who have experienced this will tell you the same.
> If your pdoc is interested in using benzo's instead then maybe he's a keeper.
> Good luck and keep us posted.
>


Most doctors get bonuses and incentives to push "new" meds from pharmacuetical companies. Something to think about.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Best wishes,
Carlos

 

Am Back on Nardil since February... Thanks

Posted by Suzanne on June 14, 2003, at 0:16:28

In reply to Re: Went off Nardil, not sure what to take now. ZeeZee, posted by Carlos on June 13, 2003, at 22:23:19

I contacted my doctor and have been back on the Nardil since February. Thanks so much for the advice.


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