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Posted by Jerrympls on May 18, 2002, at 2:19:02
OK I'm on 300mg Topamax and this is my 3rd week on it- no side effects minus feeling a bit jittery and some blurred vision-- other than that nothing. I don't seem to be experiencing any of the great weight loss "side effects" that Dr's and patients have told me about. I'm off the Seroquel because we thought that was making me gain 900 pounds - but I still seem to be balooning at an incredible rate - and I'm not an obese person-- I've weighed 150lbs my whole life. I now weigh 220lbs. I'm also on 60mg Dexedrine. I can eat a whole pie in one sitting! HELP! What's so magic about Topamax anyway?? Hell--if Dexedrine can't calm any cravings -what can I expect from Topamax?
*sigh*...............
Posted by Zo on May 18, 2002, at 4:04:36
In reply to TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...?, posted by Jerrympls on May 18, 2002, at 2:19:02
Posted by Jerrympls on May 19, 2002, at 2:40:27
In reply to Re: Dex and Tope = oranges and apples (nm) » Jerrympls, posted by Zo on May 18, 2002, at 4:04:36
Call me stupid-- but whaaa?????
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 23, 2002, at 21:41:25
In reply to TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...?, posted by Jerrympls on May 18, 2002, at 2:19:02
I tried Topamax for about 1 month, eventually got up to 75 mg before I had to stop. I felt like impending doom was 'round every bend on this stuff. Since this antsy feeling was what I was trying to heal in regards to my depressions, it didn't seem like a good choice. Plus, it did nothing for my Remeron midnight food frenzies. I think it's a dud drug personally, but it's always nice to get positive reports, if any exist, so I can tell my depressed and overweight friends.
> OK I'm on 300mg Topamax and this is my 3rd week on it- no side effects minus feeling a bit jittery and some blurred vision-- other than that nothing. I don't seem to be experiencing any of the great weight loss "side effects" that Dr's and patients have told me about. I'm off the Seroquel because we thought that was making me gain 900 pounds - but I still seem to be balooning at an incredible rate - and I'm not an obese person-- I've weighed 150lbs my whole life. I now weigh 220lbs. I'm also on 60mg Dexedrine. I can eat a whole pie in one sitting! HELP! What's so magic about Topamax anyway?? Hell--if Dexedrine can't calm any cravings -what can I expect from Topamax?
>
> *sigh*...............
Posted by AliSC on May 24, 2002, at 14:41:28
In reply to Re: TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...? » Jerrympls, posted by BarbaraCat on May 23, 2002, at 21:41:25
The reason why Topamax helps in making you lose so much weight in addition to many others is that it suppresses the appetite big time! It also stabalizes your mood, which gets rid of snacking to fulfill our need when we feel down, or depressed. The dex. may actually work for a while, as it "speeds" you up... but after taking it for a long period of time it can actually make you feel hungrier. I have been on Topamax since Aug. and weighed 150lbs. (not obese) and lost 30 lbs. without trying. I am on 250mg now. I can eat whatever I want, whenever. I just don't have the craving all the time. I have also been on dexedrine for my ADHD... it made me lose weight for a while, then it made me hungrier than I normally would have been. My best advice is if you are back to 220lb. now, is to get of the dex. and stick to the Topamax. It work the best and the weight stays off. Because once you stop the dex. all the weight will return, because all it is is speed... plus, it's really bad for your heart.
Posted by Zo on May 24, 2002, at 17:16:34
In reply to Re: Dex and Tope = oranges and apples » Zo, posted by Jerrympls on May 19, 2002, at 2:40:27
Sorry, I just meant, the two drugs really cannot be compared, they are wholly different fruit.
Zo
Posted by AliSC on May 24, 2002, at 19:23:28
In reply to TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...?, posted by Jerrympls on May 18, 2002, at 2:19:02
Posted by Jerrympls on May 25, 2002, at 1:45:20
In reply to Re: TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...? » Jerrympls, posted by BarbaraCat on May 23, 2002, at 21:41:25
I understand the differences between the two medications (dexedrine and topamax) - what I don't understand is why I'm not having the much celebrated "appetite reduction" side effect at 400mg. Also, to clarify my situtaion, I have not lost any weight from the Dexedrine - however and it has not really stimulated my appetite - but it has not done a great job of reducing it either. It helps tremndously with my depression, so I continue onward with it. Also, I have noticed with the Topamax that my lips and tongue tingle and I forget words alot - it's like I can see them in my head - right in front of me but I can't connect the picture to speech. Make any sense?
It's all frustrating. Thanks to everyone who has been posting. It helps.......
Jerry
Posted by Cam W. on May 25, 2002, at 4:39:12
In reply to Re: TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...?, posted by Jerrympls on May 25, 2002, at 1:45:20
Jerry - You're not alone among those who took Topamaxô (topiramate) and didn't lose weight. Only about 20% of people in the real world lose weight, and those that do lose weight lose an average of 5 kg (11lb) over 12 months. The reason that earlier studies showed larger decreases in weight was that the participants were given diet counseling. Quite a few in the placebo (no-drug) group lost weight, as well.
Sorry dude; you've got to get referred to a nutritionist and learn to follow and ugly diet and sensible increases in aerobic exercise over time. Your incentive is that the extra weight you put on, increases the risk of Type II diabetes and hypertensione. These "side effects" are more of a pain in the butt (I really wanted to say "pain in the ass", but I heard that there is an anti-cuss lobby here) than an ugly diet and a little jog and swim a couple of times a week could be.
There is no magic way to lose weight; there is no pill, no herb, no drug that is going to "safely" lose weight and "keep it off". That last little bit of the previous sentence is crucial; many diets will make you lose weight initially, but you do eventually gain it back, many times gaining back even more weight than they initially lost.
Also, amphetamines are no good for long term weight loss as a tolerance is built up the safer, low potency ones like ADDeral™ and Dexedrine™, causing more to be taken leading to an increased risk of dependence, heart problems and psychoses, over time. You do get some tolerance to the high potency amphetamines like methamphetamine, but you'll hardly notice it because you'll be strung out, and will twitching in sunlight.
Sorry, I'm rambling. Good luck, it's a hard road, and there is no guarantee that you will lose weight, but you've got a good shot at it.
- Cam
Posted by Jerrympls on May 25, 2002, at 14:10:11
In reply to Re: TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...? » Jerrympls, posted by Cam W. on May 25, 2002, at 4:39:12
Thanks Cam - but I want to clarify- I am not taking these medications for weight loss. I was just hoping that as a bonus I would get to shed some of the pounds gained that other meds helped me put on. Thanks.......oh, and I'm not strung out......
> Jerry - You're not alone among those who took Topamaxô (topiramate) and didn't lose weight. Only about 20% of people in the real world lose weight, and those that do lose weight lose an average of 5 kg (11lb) over 12 months. The reason that earlier studies showed larger decreases in weight was that the participants were given diet counseling. Quite a few in the placebo (no-drug) group lost weight, as well.
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> Sorry dude; you've got to get referred to a nutritionist and learn to follow and ugly diet and sensible increases in aerobic exercise over time. Your incentive is that the extra weight you put on, increases the risk of Type II diabetes and hypertensione. These "side effects" are more of a pain in the butt (I really wanted to say "pain in the ass", but I heard that there is an anti-cuss lobby here) than an ugly diet and a little jog and swim a couple of times a week could be.
>
> There is no magic way to lose weight; there is no pill, no herb, no drug that is going to "safely" lose weight and "keep it off". That last little bit of the previous sentence is crucial; many diets will make you lose weight initially, but you do eventually gain it back, many times gaining back even more weight than they initially lost.
>
> Also, amphetamines are no good for long term weight loss as a tolerance is built up the safer, low potency ones like ADDeral™ and Dexedrine™, causing more to be taken leading to an increased risk of dependence, heart problems and psychoses, over time. You do get some tolerance to the high potency amphetamines like methamphetamine, but you'll hardly notice it because you'll be strung out, and will twitching in sunlight.
>
> Sorry, I'm rambling. Good luck, it's a hard road, and there is no guarantee that you will lose weight, but you've got a good shot at it.
>
> - Cam
Posted by ceruleanblue on July 1, 2002, at 11:21:00
In reply to Re: TOPAMAX -weight loss? And that kicks in...? » Cam W., posted by Jerrympls on May 25, 2002, at 14:10:11
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> Thanks Cam - but I want to clarify- I am not taking these medications for weight loss. I was just hoping that as a bonus I would get to shed some of the pounds gained that other meds helped me put on. Thanks.......oh, and I'm not strung out......
>
>
> > Jerry - You're not alone among those who took Topamaxô (topiramate) and didn't lose weight. Only about 20% of people in the real world lose weight, and those that do lose weight lose an average of 5 kg (11lb) over 12 months. The reason that earlier studies showed larger decreases in weight was that the participants were given diet counseling. Quite a few in the placebo (no-drug) group lost weight, as well.
> >
> > Sorry dude; you've got to get referred to a nutritionist and learn to follow and ugly diet and sensible increases in aerobic exercise over time. Your incentive is that the extra weight you put on, increases the risk of Type II diabetes and hypertensione. These "side effects" are more of a pain in the butt (I really wanted to say "pain in the ass", but I heard that there is an anti-cuss lobby here) than an ugly diet and a little jog and swim a couple of times a week could be.
> >
> > There is no magic way to lose weight; there is no pill, no herb, no drug that is going to "safely" lose weight and "keep it off". That last little bit of the previous sentence is crucial; many diets will make you lose weight initially, but you do eventually gain it back, many times gaining back even more weight than they initially lost.
> >
> > Also, amphetamines are no good for long term weight loss as a tolerance is built up the safer, low potency ones like ADDeral™ and Dexedrine™, causing more to be taken leading to an increased risk of dependence, heart problems and psychoses, over time. You do get some tolerance to the high potency amphetamines like methamphetamine, but you'll hardly notice it because you'll be strung out, and will twitching in sunlight.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm rambling. Good luck, it's a hard road, and there is no guarantee that you will lose weight, but you've got a good shot at it.
> >
> > - Cam********************************************
As for the weight loss effects..... whoa. I have lost 40+ lbs since taking topamax.... actually 60+ lbs if you include the 20 I put on through the use of the EVIL zyprexa.ITs been a blessing to me.
I'm furious with my insurance company right now because they say that they won't pay for this months supply....... (which would be $450-ish )
too many refills cumulated??????I get all my stuff filled together...... so I don't know what the heck the problem is, but I'm kinda worried about quitting COLD TURKEY.
It took a lot of time to work up to 400 mgs...... and I don't know what dropping to zero will do????
I HATE my pdoc, but I guess I will have to swallow my pride and call him............
Unfortunately I can't find another pdoc........around here.
Which is a fairly metropolotin area....... I just don't get it????????Frustrated!!!
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