Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 79791

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Read this book: APP textbook of Psychopharmacology

Posted by 3 Beer Effect on September 28, 2001, at 3:48:37

American Psychiatric Press Textbook of Psychopharmacology, second edition, by Schatzberg & Nemeroff.......

I went through hundreds of books at the University of Texas at Austin libraries looking for information on how anti-depressent medicines work, and what chemical imbalances are present in depression.----- This field is known as psychopharmacology. The above book was easily the best I found, and is readible for lay persons like me (i'm a college student) but also manages to include advanced information on all the psychiatry medications & mental illnesses.

You can buy it at Amazon.com but it is pretty expensive- you might want to wait until the 3rd edition comes out (The one for sale now, 2nd edition is 1998).
Does anyone know when the 3rd edition will come out?

 

Dr. Bob- when will 3rd ed. of this book come out? (nm)

Posted by 3 Beer Effect on September 28, 2001, at 3:50:36

In reply to Read this book: APP textbook of Psychopharmacology, posted by 3 Beer Effect on September 28, 2001, at 3:48:37

 

Re: Read this book: APP textbook of Psychopharmaco 3 Beer Effect

Posted by pellmell on September 28, 2001, at 11:59:11

In reply to Read this book: APP textbook of Psychopharmacology, posted by 3 Beer Effect on September 28, 2001, at 3:48:37

Cool, I just requested it from my university's library.

I highly recommend Essential Psychopharmacology by Stephen M. Stahl. It's worth it for the diagrams alone. :)

-pm

 

Don't forget psycho-social support in depression 3 Beer Effect

Posted by jay on September 28, 2001, at 16:34:11

In reply to Read this book: APP textbook of Psychopharmacology, posted by 3 Beer Effect on September 28, 2001, at 3:48:37

Not hounding, just putting across that combos of good high-dose meds *and* some type of psycho-social support and/or counselling likely work best in keeping depression and anxiety in check, and in remission.

Meds and counselling, especially life-skills,communication, and CBT can give you tools along with your meds that can make you a *resiliant* human. We've got to get *something* out of all this pain. I think we become a bit smug when we ignore that besides chemical changes, we *also* need to change interpersonal habits, communication, and control and mastery over our lives. As one therapist friend has commented, "Medication treats depression; I treat depressives."

James


> American Psychiatric Press Textbook of Psychopharmacology, second edition, by Schatzberg & Nemeroff.......
>
> I went through hundreds of books at the University of Texas at Austin libraries looking for information on how anti-depressent medicines work, and what chemical imbalances are present in depression.----- This field is known as psychopharmacology. The above book was easily the best I found, and is readible for lay persons like me (i'm a college student) but also manages to include advanced information on all the psychiatry medications & mental illnesses.
>
> You can buy it at Amazon.com but it is pretty expensive- you might want to wait until the 3rd edition comes out (The one for sale now, 2nd edition is 1998).
> Does anyone know when the 3rd edition will come out?

 

psycho-social support (not again)

Posted by Elizabeth on October 1, 2001, at 14:40:07

In reply to Don't forget psycho-social support in depression 3 Beer Effect, posted by jay on September 28, 2001, at 16:34:11

Doesn't this "reminder" belong in psycho-SOCIAL-babble? I mean, seriously, this topic has been talked to death, and AFAIK, promoting talk therapy is not part of the purpose of this board.

On a more topical note, I recommend Schatzberg & Nemeroff as well -- it's one of my main resources on this topic, and I think it's very important that we educate ourselves. It might be helpful to have some background before diving into it, as it does get a little bit technical in places. Overall, though, I found it very accessible.

I got the 2nd edition as soon as it came out (Amazon had it at a reduced price and I'd just gotten a gift certificate as a birthday present :-) ) and would be very interested if anyone has any info on the 3rd. I think that Amazon might have a reduced intro price immediately after the 3rd ed. comes out, as they did with both other editions.

-elizabeth

P.S. I have family and friends who offer me all the "psychosocial support" I need. I would hope that most others don't need to pay somebody for it, either.

 

Re: psycho-social support (not again) Elizabeth

Posted by jay on October 1, 2001, at 15:14:36

In reply to psycho-social support (not again), posted by Elizabeth on October 1, 2001, at 14:40:07

> Doesn't this "reminder" belong in psycho-SOCIAL-babble? I mean, seriously, this topic has been talked to death, and AFAIK, promoting talk therapy is not part of the purpose of this board.
>

Well, it is just a reminder that they are true counterparts, and one belongs with the other. If it was posted only on p-s-support, it wouldn't be seen..heh. If I post a "med" reminder on p-s-support, it again is just asking for balance. No harm done at all. :-)

Jay

 

Re: psycho-social support (not again) - Dr. Bob? (nm)

Posted by Elizabeth on October 1, 2001, at 20:03:28

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (not again) Elizabeth, posted by jay on October 1, 2001, at 15:14:36

 

Philosophy of Medication- Dr. Bob? Elizabeth

Posted by jay on October 2, 2001, at 6:41:24

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (not again) - Dr. Bob? (nm), posted by Elizabeth on October 1, 2001, at 20:03:28


Once again, and Dr. Bob already answered this, it is a discussion of the philosphical angle behind meds. Quite appropriate. :-)

Jay

 

Re: psycho-social support (never again!). Elizabeth

Posted by JahL on October 2, 2001, at 11:23:51

In reply to psycho-social support (not again), posted by Elizabeth on October 1, 2001, at 14:40:07

> Doesn't this "reminder" belong in psycho-SOCIAL-babble? I mean, seriously, this topic has been talked to death, and AFAIK, promoting talk therapy is not part of the purpose of this board.

Too right it isn't. Talk therapy needs *no* promotion; psychologists are quite capable of 'talking up' their profession & interfering where they're not wanted. A case in point:

Received an NHS appt. with my old pdoc today with view to being referred to a *specialist pharmacologist*. This guy previously sent me to a day hospital for 6 months and knows my view on talk therapy (ie one of the biggest scams of the C20th). So why is there going to be a psychologist present at my new appt? The supposedly cash-strapped NHS is wasting money on someone who will have precisely 3 seconds to exit the office upon my arrival. It also worries me that they're *still* looking at this from a psychological POV. Exasperated? That's putting it mildly.

> P.S. I have family and friends who offer me all the "psychosocial support" I need. I would hope that most others don't need to pay somebody for it, either.

That's how I've always felt. Maybe others aren't so lucky (at least in this regard) as us?

J.

 

Re: psycho-social support (never again!) JahL

Posted by Elizabeth on October 2, 2001, at 12:00:03

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (never again!). Elizabeth, posted by JahL on October 2, 2001, at 11:23:51

I know I've heard many stories of this sort...you're not alone. Promoters of "talk therapy" do seem, too often, to act like evangelists or something.

I just thought that this post was a random (and uncalled-for) response that was only *very* tangentially related to the topic of the thread, so I question the motives of the author. (Does "Jay" even realise that the thread was about a textbook, not about so-called "philosophy of medication?" Or did he just pick a random thread to provide his unsolicited advice?)

> This guy previously sent me to a day hospital for 6 months and knows my view on talk therapy (ie one of the biggest scams of the C20th). So why is there going to be a psychologist present at my new appt?

I dunno (maybe they're just trying to keep the psychologists out of trouble and off the streets?), but I can't wait to hear how you deal with the situation. :-)

-elizabeth

 

Re: psycho-social support (never again!) Elizabeth

Posted by Krazy Kat on October 2, 2001, at 18:46:33

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (never again!) JahL, posted by Elizabeth on October 2, 2001, at 12:00:03

This seems awfully harsh for a pretty simple post.

 

Can't we redirect something ourselves? (nm)

Posted by Krazy Kat on October 2, 2001, at 18:47:48

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (never again!) JahL, posted by Elizabeth on October 2, 2001, at 12:00:03

 

Re: psycho-social support

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2001, at 21:48:45

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (not again) Elizabeth, posted by jay on October 1, 2001, at 15:14:36

> Well, it is just a reminder that they are true counterparts, and one belongs with the other.

I guess an occasional reminder is OK. But if this is going to be a big long thread, I do think it should be redirected. :-)

Bob

 

Redirect: psycho-social support

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 5, 2001, at 14:19:01

In reply to Re: psycho-social support, posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2001, at 21:48:45

> if this is going to be a big long thread, I do think it should be redirected.

OK, follow-ups should be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble. If there are any more. I'm going to delete the ones that were posted here before...

Bob


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