Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 80001

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Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by charlie99 on October 1, 2001, at 17:09:51

I've been taking Wellbutrin SR for just over 2 weeks now 2x150mg per day. It made me feel normal right away (no spacey feeling) and I eat and sleep fine on it which makes me think it is right for me. I'm hoping that it will give me some of the sex drive which vanished completely when I was about 17 (29 now). Anyone have a similar experience & how long does it take? If I get none of the spacey feeling does that suggest I am tolerant & should consider upping the dose after 4-5 weeks if nothing kicks in.
Also anyone have any experience of combining WB with Bromocriptine (parlodel). I know that WB is supposed to be a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and that Bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist but will they clash?
BTW Wellbutrin is only licensed as Zyban in the UK - the only medication to help me & I'll have to buy it over the Net.

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by geno on October 1, 2001, at 18:05:13

In reply to Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by charlie99 on October 1, 2001, at 17:09:51

> I've been taking Wellbutrin SR for just over 2 weeks now 2x150mg per day. It made me feel normal right away (no spacey feeling) and I eat and sleep fine on it which makes me think it is right for me. I'm hoping that it will give me some of the sex drive which vanished completely when I was about 17 (29 now). Anyone have a similar experience & how long does it take? If I get none of the spacey feeling does that suggest I am tolerant & should consider upping the dose after 4-5 weeks if nothing kicks in.
> Also anyone have any experience of combining WB with Bromocriptine (parlodel). I know that WB is supposed to be a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and that Bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist but will they clash?
> BTW Wellbutrin is only licensed as Zyban in the UK - the only medication to help me & I'll have to buy it over the Net.

not to sure about bromocriptin, but welbutrin is suppose to increase sex drive. But from reading i found is norepinephine is the main sex chemical.Yohimbine is the best aphrodisiac, i found. WOW. it somehow increases norepinephrine and for some, gives you an increased mood. I take despirimine that also increases norepinephrine, not as powerful as yohimbine, but it does give me some sexual urges. I tried welbutrin, and i got very anxious, panicy from it. Excess dopamine causes schizofrenia symtoms for some. just experiment, try welbutrin for a while. if not luck, try a norepinephrine increaser.

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by charlie99 on October 3, 2001, at 5:15:19

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by geno on October 1, 2001, at 18:05:13

Is that the prescription Yohimbine hydrochloride or the stuff from health shops?

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by sl on October 3, 2001, at 22:13:29

In reply to Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by charlie99 on October 1, 2001, at 17:09:51

> I've been taking Wellbutrin SR for just over 2 weeks now 2x150mg per day. It made me feel normal right away (no spacey feeling) and I eat and sleep fine on it which makes me think it is right for me.

Probably true!
I'm that way on the immediate-release...I eat normal and sleep normal and feel NORMAL! ;)

> I'm hoping that it will give me some of the sex drive which vanished completely when I was about 17 (29 now).

Wait, are you saying it vanished due to mental illness, or just no reason at all?
I don't think it will give you a sex drive if you don't naturally have one, but if you've got no urge for sex cuz you're DEPRESSED, it'll help a lot.

> Anyone have a similar experience & how long does it take? If I get none of the spacey feeling does that suggest I am tolerant & should consider upping the dose after 4-5 weeks if nothing kicks in.

NO! The trick is to find the amount that helps you WITHOUT making side-effects. Give it a healthy chance, Wb usually kicks in faster than SSRIs and other stuff... THEN try upping. But I really wouldn't try that too fast, you'll end up feeling crummy, jittery, anxious, irritable, and possible nasty headaches. Anyway, upping past 300 isn't usually too practical, usually many bad side-effects. You won't find many people who take more than 300.

> Also anyone have any experience of combining WB with Bromocriptine (parlodel). I know that WB is supposed to be a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and that Bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist but will they clash?

*blink* Never heard of it.

> BTW Wellbutrin is only licensed as Zyban in the UK - the only medication to help me & I'll have to buy it over the Net.

*blink*
You can't BUY it as Zyban?
Or ask your doc to prescribe it...?
It's the same med.

sl

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by charlie99 on October 4, 2001, at 3:12:41

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by sl on October 3, 2001, at 22:13:29

> > I've been taking Wellbutrin SR for just over 2 weeks now 2x150mg per day. It made me feel normal right away (no spacey feeling) and I eat and sleep fine on it which makes me think it is right for me.
>
> Probably true!
> I'm that way on the immediate-release...I eat normal and sleep normal and feel NORMAL! ;)
>
> > I'm hoping that it will give me some of the sex drive which vanished completely when I was about 17 (29 now).
>
> Wait, are you saying it vanished due to mental illness, or just no reason at all?
Well in my world there has to be a reason and this is the only one I can think of.
> I don't think it will give you a sex drive if you don't naturally have one, but if you've got no urge for sex cuz you're DEPRESSED, it'll help a lot.
I'd say that for a physically healthy male to have no sex drive in his twenties is a pretty good definition of depressed.
>
> > Anyone have a similar experience & how long does it take? If I get none of the spacey feeling does that suggest I am tolerant & should consider upping the dose after 4-5 weeks if nothing kicks in.
>
> NO! The trick is to find the amount that helps you WITHOUT making side-effects. Give it a healthy chance, Wb usually kicks in faster than SSRIs and other stuff... THEN try upping. But I really wouldn't try that too fast, you'll end up feeling crummy, jittery, anxious, irritable, and possible nasty headaches. Anyway, upping past 300 isn't usually too practical, usually many bad side-effects. You won't find many people who take more than 300.

So if 4-5 weeks isn't a long enough time after which to consider upping the dose, then what is?
My reasoning was that most people who experience benefits get a rush when they FIRST take it which then goes. I'm obviously not looking for side effects just for the sake of them, but how will I know the best dose for me without trying? It would be useful to hear from someone who has tried this.
>
> > Also anyone have any experience of combining WB with Bromocriptine (parlodel). I know that WB is supposed to be a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and that Bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist but will they clash?
>
> *blink* Never heard of it.
>
> > BTW Wellbutrin is only licensed as Zyban in the UK - the only medication to help me & I'll have to buy it over the Net.
>
> *blink*
> You can't BUY it as Zyban?
> Or ask your doc to prescribe it...?
> It's the same med.
>
> sl
In fairness I think I did say that they're the same med - I can't see what else I can have meant. What I mean is that anti-smoking medication is only licensed for 9 weeks whereas an antidepressant is for longer. Wellbutrin is not considered an antidepressant in the UK and you cannot buy it without a prescription. I got a month's supply in Tenerife for c. GBP60 and while I can afford this, it seems cruel that I can get other medicines which don't help me, but not the only one that does.

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by fluffykitty on October 4, 2001, at 12:10:29

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by charlie99 on October 4, 2001, at 3:12:41

Does Yohimbe work for both men and women?

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by sl on October 4, 2001, at 16:03:36

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by charlie99 on October 4, 2001, at 3:12:41

> > Wait, are you saying it vanished due to mental illness, or just no reason at all?
> Well in my world there has to be a reason and this is the only one I can think of.

Umm...do you have any other signs of depression or mental illness?
And have you had your hormones checked? (I have no idea how they do that, but there's gotta be a way)

> > I don't think it will give you a sex drive if you don't naturally have one, but if you've got no urge for sex cuz you're DEPRESSED, it'll help a lot.
> I'd say that for a physically healthy male to have no sex drive in his twenties is a pretty good definition of depressed.

Not a definition, but a symptom yes.
There's much more to being clinically depressed.
Unless you meant you're depressed CUZ you've got no sex drive. :P
It's strange, but well, that doesn't make you crazy.

> > NO! The trick is to find the amount that helps you WITHOUT making side-effects. Give it a healthy chance, Wb usually kicks in faster than

> So if 4-5 weeks isn't a long enough time after which to consider upping the dose, then what is?

Okay, re-reading it I see what you mean, and yes.
It was that word "tolerant" that threw me. Maybe you use it differently in the UK, but here it means something a bit different. Anyway, I see now that wasn't what you meant.
Sure, you could try more. If you have any personal or family history of epilepsy or seizures, you probably don't want to, tho. The more you take, the higher than chance you'll have a seizure. It's still not huge, but if you have a genetic predisposition to it it's more likely.

> My reasoning was that most people who experience benefits get a rush when they FIRST take it which then goes. I'm obviously not looking for side

*blink* They do?
It never did for me.
I just sorta slowly went up to a state which I feel normal, can handle life, can do things, etc.

>effects just for the sake of them, but how will I know the best dose for me without trying? It would be useful to hear from someone who has tried this.

Well yes. You should try.
You could be someone who doesn't respond to Wellbutrin, or doesn't respond to wellbutrin til a point where side-effects are not tolerable. Psychiatric meds are highly personal....there's lots of people who'll tell you they felt LOUSY on Wellbutrin, and a few who'll say it changed their lives [for the better]. Same with most well-known meds. It's not gauranteed that you'll respond well to Wellbutrin, regardless of dosage.

> > > BTW Wellbutrin is only licensed as Zyban in the UK - the only medication to help me & I'll have to buy it over the Net.

Waait...why do you think it's the only thing that'll help you??? And you're saying you aren't responding....? I'm confused.

> > *blink*
> > You can't BUY it as Zyban?
> > Or ask your doc to prescribe it...?
> > It's the same med.
> In fairness I think I did say that they're the same med - I can't see what else I can have meant. What I mean is that anti-smoking medication is only licensed for 9 weeks whereas an

Yes, I know you said it that's why I didn't understand.
NOW I see. I don't think Zyban has a time-limit on it here, maybe BECAUSE it's a known antidepressant. But anyway, it didn't make sense til you mentioned that.
Your doc can't countermand that and order you to take it long-term? Or don't you have a doctor?
Or is it illegal for him/her to prescribe it for longer than 9 wks?

sl

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by sl on October 4, 2001, at 21:31:05

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by fluffykitty on October 4, 2001, at 12:10:29

> Does Yohimbe work for both men and women?

I believe so, because it just increases blood flow to the genitals (in a general sense).
But be careful, it apparently reacts with many psychiatric meds!

sl

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by paxvox on October 5, 2001, at 12:03:11

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by sl on October 4, 2001, at 21:31:05

> > Does Yohimbe work for both men and women?


I'm not so sure that Yohimbe has a historical use with women, and only with great caution in men (this being the actual medication, not the herb). I believe you will find many contraindications if you peruse the PDR.


PAX

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by paxvox on October 5, 2001, at 12:09:59

In reply to Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by charlie99 on October 1, 2001, at 17:09:51

Too bad the UK doesn't allow what we call "off-lable" use of prescription meds. Seems somewhat archaic, maybe it's your socialized medical system trying to save a quid or two? I don't think you would have any trouble getting WB from an international source, unless it is a controlled substance to import into the UK. It isn't the cheapest med in the world, that's for sure! And yes, I agree that you should not have to go to such extremes to get the med that works for you. However, the same thing works against us in the USA. The FDA sometimes has not approved meds that have been safely used in Europe for years. Go figure.


PAX

 

Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine

Posted by charlie99 on October 5, 2001, at 13:52:27

In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Bromocriptine, posted by paxvox on October 5, 2001, at 12:09:59

Well I picked up a month's supply in Tenerife & know I can get it there. But honestly with this med I can live a full life & without it I will not live another five years. It seems mad that I live in a major capital city in the twenty-first century and I have to go to these measures. I was also looking into Adrafanil to see if it would do the same sort of thing. Anyone have any experience of one vs the other?


> Too bad the UK doesn't allow what we call "off-lable" use of prescription meds. Seems somewhat archaic, maybe it's your socialized medical system trying to save a quid or two? I don't think you would have any trouble getting WB from an international source, unless it is a controlled substance to import into the UK. It isn't the cheapest med in the world, that's for sure! And yes, I agree that you should not have to go to such extremes to get the med that works for you. However, the same thing works against us in the USA. The FDA sometimes has not approved meds that have been safely used in Europe for years. Go figure.
>
>
> PAX


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