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Posted by SLS on May 24, 2001, at 7:40:00
Has anyone experienced poop-out with Effexor after being well for many months?
What did you do to regain an antidepressant response?
Has anyone remained well on Effexor who has experienced poop-out with several SSRIs?
Has anyone experienced the appearance of fatigue and sleepiness with Effexor after feeling well and energetic for a long while?
Thanks for any replies.
- Scott
Posted by mtm on May 24, 2001, at 17:01:26
In reply to Does Effexor poop-out ?, posted by SLS on May 24, 2001, at 7:40:00
> >
> - Scott
Scott-
I felt pretty energetic with Effexor at first. Increased the dose to 225mg and then added Wellbutrin but never had that ok feeling again. The sleepiness has been
so bad that I'm taking Adderall now to combat it. Didn't really think it was the Effexor causing it but maybe it is. Won't know until I get off it which sounds scary
according to a lot of people on this forum. Haven't really felt fatigue, though. Hope you get some replies because I'm curious about this too.
mtm
Posted by Astrologer30 on May 24, 2001, at 19:27:55
In reply to Does Effexor poop-out ?, posted by SLS on May 24, 2001, at 7:40:00
Hi Scott,
Effexor xr at 250 mgs 'and' when I was reducing it made me reasonably sleepy, but than I also had an addition of clonazapam or ativan depending on what my docter prescribed, and the clonazapam would knock me out for hours on end, it was like I was in a coma - the house could be on fire and I would be like - wake me up when it's out, the Ativan 2 mgs, just took away my anxiety/panic attacks etc.and didn't cause any great sleepiness. Now thought that I am coming off the Effexor, it all seems to be going backwards for me because I am extremly sleepy, but overall, the effect of the Effexor on my system in regards to depression/agoraphobia,ocd etc. had stayed the same level throughout no matter what mg I was on and I am grateful for that one, I can only hope that when the Effexor is out of my system completely I will be able to continue on with life in the same manner, if not, I have no problem with returning to the Effexor.
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 26, 2001, at 18:14:28
In reply to Does Effexor poop-out ?, posted by SLS on May 24, 2001, at 7:40:00
I wasn't on it (well, is till am, but stick with me!!!) it long enough for a poop out, but I did have a one month break from it (including cold turkey withdrawal from hell) and it has never worked well like it did first time.
Nikki x
> Has anyone experienced poop-out with Effexor after being well for many months?
>
> What did you do to regain an antidepressant response?
>
> Has anyone remained well on Effexor who has experienced poop-out with several SSRIs?
>
> Has anyone experienced the appearance of fatigue and sleepiness with Effexor after feeling well and energetic for a long while?
>
> Thanks for any replies.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by SLS on May 27, 2001, at 14:34:02
In reply to Re: Does Effexor poop-out ? » SLS, posted by NikkiT2 on May 26, 2001, at 18:14:28
Hi Nikki x
Thank you very much for your reply.
> I wasn't on it (well, is till am, but stick with me!!!) it long enough for a poop out, but I did have a one month break from it (including cold turkey withdrawal from hell) and it has never worked well like it did first time.
>:-(
Damn.
If you are still taking Effexor, perhaps you can coax it along with the addition of another drug. There are lots of alternatives - too many for me to guess as to which ones are the best bets - especially without knowing what you have already tried.
Two common and often successful choices to augment Effexor are Wellbutrin and Remeron. Lithium augmentation using low dosages (300mg - 600mg) is sometimes overlooked as is the use of thyroid hormones (something that appears to be more successful in females).
It would be interesting to see how you would respond to the addition of any of the following: (not that you should be my guinea-pig :-) )
1. Pindolol
2. Buspar
3. Geodon
These three drugs manipulate the serotonin 5-HT1a receptor directly in one way or another. SalArmy4Me can comment further on these drugs. Geodon is a drug that belongs to a class of drugs most often used to treat schizophrenia or other psychoses. As such, it must be considered to have the potential to produce some significant side effects resembling movement disorders, even though it is thought to have a much reduced risk of doing so as compared to the older drugs. Although new, Geodon has already demonstrated an ability to produce potent antidepressant responses in some people for whom nothing else has worked.
On paper, and in a simplistic fashion, one can try to hit the same serotonin receptors as does Geodon by adding both Buspar and Serzone together with Effexor.
Hopefully, you won't need to investigate any of these more exotic things, as you may do just fine with the simpler and more common treatments.
If nothing else, knowing that alternatives like this exist should be enough for you to feel optimistic that you will find something that works well.
- Scott
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 27, 2001, at 17:14:57
In reply to Re: Does Effexor poop-out ? » NikkiT2, posted by SLS on May 27, 2001, at 14:34:02
I'm in the UK and the docs really aren't keen on you being on more than two meds... I'm currently on Risperone (anti-psychotic) at low dose too... not sure how I'm feeling these days... I've cut my fxr dose in half (very slolwy) and I certainly feel different (lost all the messy head I had from the fxr), but not sure whether its good or bad better.
Thanks for all the advice though.. any other ideas?? I didn;t realise the antipsychotic was helping so much till I missed friday nights and yesterdays doses and felt really wierd.
Oh what fun this all is...
nikkki x
> Hi Nikki x
>
> Thank you very much for your reply.
>
> > I wasn't on it (well, is till am, but stick with me!!!) it long enough for a poop out, but I did have a one month break from it (including cold turkey withdrawal from hell) and it has never worked well like it did first time.
>
> >:-(
>
> Damn.
>
> If you are still taking Effexor, perhaps you can coax it along with the addition of another drug. There are lots of alternatives - too many for me to guess as to which ones are the best bets - especially without knowing what you have already tried.
>
> Two common and often successful choices to augment Effexor are Wellbutrin and Remeron. Lithium augmentation using low dosages (300mg - 600mg) is sometimes overlooked as is the use of thyroid hormones (something that appears to be more successful in females).
>
> It would be interesting to see how you would respond to the addition of any of the following: (not that you should be my guinea-pig :-) )
>
> 1. Pindolol
>
> 2. Buspar
>
> 3. Geodon
>
> These three drugs manipulate the serotonin 5-HT1a receptor directly in one way or another. SalArmy4Me can comment further on these drugs. Geodon is a drug that belongs to a class of drugs most often used to treat schizophrenia or other psychoses. As such, it must be considered to have the potential to produce some significant side effects resembling movement disorders, even though it is thought to have a much reduced risk of doing so as compared to the older drugs. Although new, Geodon has already demonstrated an ability to produce potent antidepressant responses in some people for whom nothing else has worked.
>
> On paper, and in a simplistic fashion, one can try to hit the same serotonin receptors as does Geodon by adding both Buspar and Serzone together with Effexor.
>
> Hopefully, you won't need to investigate any of these more exotic things, as you may do just fine with the simpler and more common treatments.
>
> If nothing else, knowing that alternatives like this exist should be enough for you to feel optimistic that you will find something that works well.
>
>
> - Scott
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