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Posted by dj on October 21, 1999, at 7:57:03
In a thread above about feeling ugly Janice wrote the following as a characterization for ADD indicators:
> *I used to (I have 'cured' this symptom) have extreme difficulties being organized and clean. I was unable (although I have a high IQ and am a gifted student) to figure out how a room got messy and how a room got clean.
> *I'm intenseJudging by some of the commentary in another thread here somewhere about messy rooms & minds & based on my own experience and reading elsewhere I'd say both of these would qualify as symptoms of depression. Regardless, I am curious what solutions you (or others) found for dealing with this, J.
You also wrote:
> So far, none of my accomplishments mean anything to me. I wonder how you get accomplishments to mean anything? I'm not depressed, but how do you get things to matter to you. I find that what others deem to be of high value generally seems useless and petty to me. By my nature, I am basically a complete rebel.
>I relate to this as well and suspect others here will as well. How does that link to the former statement & results in your mind. Certainly for me I only partially value tidiness and extreme organization though I could certainly benefit from more of both. Others?
Posted by janice on October 21, 1999, at 14:19:39
In reply to diss-organization & resolution -- Janice +?, posted by dj on October 21, 1999, at 7:57:03
hi dj,
I have always wanted to be clean and organized, I value it very highly. I struggled with this continuously; my sister the other day reminded me of what I used to tell her as to why the place wasn't clean. I'd scream (we constantly fought about housework), 'of course there's an excuse, if there wasn't an excuse, the place would be clean'.
I even had the audacity to treaten my last boyfriend that I would leave if he didn't get a cleaner in twice a week...that is to clean up after me.So this is what works for me. It's simple and ridiculously silly. Go get a timer from a hair supply place - at least this is where I got mine. For 12 minutes a day, I clean intensely. that's it, I don't even have to think about it again for another 24 hours. The only time I clean more than12 minutes is when I have to do a washing or scrub a floo. Once a week, I do my finances. simple and takes all the grief away. Janice
Posted by janice on October 21, 1999, at 14:22:12
In reply to diss-organization & resolution -- Janice +?, posted by dj on October 21, 1999, at 7:57:03
hi,
cbc does some great shows. Are they saying anything you don't know?
did you ever see 'Twitch City'? It's about a depressed guy who never leaves his apartment. It was very clever. Janice.
Posted by dj on October 21, 1999, at 23:12:33
In reply to Re: diss-organization & resolution -- Janice +?, posted by janice on October 21, 1999, at 14:22:12
CBC has some good personal comments from a person tonight who was dealing with ECT and others on ADs and so on. I only partially listened to the first program, Monday, but there was talk of the frontal lobes being the source of lots of wierd depressive patterns and certainly that's an area where I experience mind-storms.
Tomorrow night focuses on psycho-therapy and interviews with folks at the Clark Insititute in T.O. I sent some copy on the vagus nerve issue to them in the hope they will do a follow up piece on it.
Haven't seen Twitch City, yet...
Thanks for the comments on cleaning & finances. What about work and life?
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