Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1022

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Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by Shirley on November 2, 1998, at 0:10:55

Anybody here know anything about OCD and its treatment? I have found this site to be helpful with my depression-related questions, but don't see much about OCD.

I am being treated for major depression and anxiety, and currently take 150 mg Effexor XR, 30 mg Buspar, and 100 mg trazodone. Zoloft was tried first, but didn't help me at all. I do notice a huge improvement with the Effexor.

My husband, (a great guy!), has been using Anafranil for his OCD for many years, at least since it was released. It has successfully eliminated his obsessive-compulsive problems, but I think it has contibuted to a significant weight gain, and sexual side effects (don't make me explain!).

My therapist (a social-worker type: LCSW, ARPN who can prescribe meds), in an effort to help me with my marital problems (partly "intimacy" issues), wondered if perhaps the Anafranil was contributing to our intimacy problems. Of course, I know it's more than just that, but still I'm curious to know more about the Anafranil side effects. She brought up the subject of using Luvox for the OCD (perhaps augmenting with viagra?), so I asked my husband to discuss it with his Psych Doc. Mistake. My husband said his Doc seemed to take umbrage that a mere therapist would question his judgement in prescribing the Anafranil, especially since it has been effective. "Why fix what ain't broke", after all. He also said that the Luvox was introduced into the American market simply to fill a marketing niche (OCD), since the anti-depressant market was alreade saturated with all of the other SSRI's. I'm not satisfied with his response, and would like to hear from those of you who might know something about Anafranil vs. Luvox.

Also-my husband is happy to accept what this guy says, because he fears going off the Anafranil, and waiting for the Luvox to work.

Thanks for your input! ~Shirley

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by Toby on November 3, 1998, at 15:04:05

In reply to Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Shirley on November 2, 1998, at 0:10:55

Actually, augmenting the Anafranil with viagra would probably be the better choice than switching to Luvox from the standpoint of the sexual dysfunction, especially if the problem is impotence. Luvox is a fine drug, but to switch, your husband would have to be off the Anafranil for at least 2 weeks before starting the Luvox and then would have to build up the dose to see if it will work. If it doesn't, switching back to Anafranil doesn't take so long but that whole process can be very disconcerting since the OCD symptoms are likely to return while waiting for a response from the Luvox and then having wait again on the Anafranil to kick back in if the Luvox doesn't work. If your husband is unhappy with the situation, he should be at least given the opportunity to see if there is something with fewer side effects that would work for him. What was the doctor's thought about the Viagra?

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by Shirley on November 5, 1998, at 0:07:27

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Toby on November 3, 1998, at 15:04:05

No, I doubt if Viagra was discussed. Actually, my initial concern with the anafranil, the more I started reading about it, was the issue of weight gain. He's put on a lot of weight (30+ LBS), and I wondered if the Anafranil could have contributed significantly. My husband thinks it's lifestyle; I don't know. Also, I thought Luvox had become the medication of choice for OCD these days, at least according to my therapist.

He is, as you warned, VERY hesitant to switch to a different medication without any guarantees that the new one will work. He's pretty irritated with me for even pursuing this-thinks I'm looking to blame him for all of MY problems. Well, if not him, then who?? ; )

Thank you for your advice, Toby.

~Shirley

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by C.J. on November 9, 1998, at 21:27:54

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Shirley on November 5, 1998, at 0:07:27

> Hello Shirley,

I believe Luvox is a life saver!!! My Family Doctor tried me on Prozac, Paxil and Zoloft. Either, they did not work and all gave me serious sexual dysfunction. During a rough time in my life, my wife was my support and we started to alienate each other because of the sexual side effects. That is until Luvox!!

It works and I have NO sexual dysfunction. My brother has pretty severe OCD and he uses Luvox at 300mg. It works very well for him and he does not have any sexual side effects either.

However, I have no idea about changing meds from Anafranil.

I do know that more Family Doctors should use Luvox based solely on the lack of sexual dysfunction. Prozac is also very expensive compared to Luvox.

Good luck,

C.J.

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by Shirley on November 12, 1998, at 20:25:46

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by C.J. on November 9, 1998, at 21:27:54

C.J.,

Do you by any chance work for Solvay??

Thank you for your enthusiastic endorsement of Luvox. My doctor also recommended it to me for my depression, but I'm guardedly optomistic about the Effexor.

My husband is too worried (probobly rightly so) about the time it would take to make the switch from Anafranil to Luvox. It would evidently involve no medication for a period of two weeks, followed by gradual increases in the Luvox. I still think it has contributed to his weight gain, and some sexual dysfunction. He is attempting to correct the problems, but will remain on the Anafranil.

I know what you mean by these medications/illnesses wreaking havoc upon one's marriage. Especially when both people are neurotic (is this term still used?). Oh well, we're working on it, and at least my husband is completely happy and without obsessive thought patterns, and has been for years with the Anafranil.

Now, me on the other hand.....whole different story.

Keep spreadin' the good news about Luvox, C.J.! : )
~Shirley

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by C.J. on December 2, 1998, at 11:28:14

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by Shirley on November 12, 1998, at 20:25:46

Shirley,

No, I do not work for Solvay, however, I wished that I did since I have found Luvox. I just was losing hope from all the other meds and was ecstatic when I had the experience with Luvox. I had not heard much about Luvox at all except for my brother.

Anyways, I have also heard some great experiences with Effexor. I am just very happy with Luvox. Good luck to you and your husband.

C.J.

 

Re: C.J. Luvox

Posted by Michael Schell on December 2, 1998, at 14:57:12

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by C.J. on December 2, 1998, at 11:28:14

> Shirley,
> No, I do not work for Solvay, however, I wished that I did since I have found Luvox. I just was losing hope from all the other meds and was ecstatic when I had the experience with Luvox. I had not heard much about Luvox at all except for my brother.
> Anyways, I have also heard some great experiences with Effexor. I am just very happy with Luvox. Good luck to you and your husband.
> C.J.
>Hey C.J.,
I hope you don't mind me asking you some personal questions. Well, here they are: First, Are you a man or a woman? Next what is your dose of Luvox, Third What are you being treated for?, Fourth What are the side effects you have? and Finally What other medications or Vitamins or whatever do you take with the Luvox that gives you such a good respone? I hope you'll answer my enquiries. I really would like to get off this medication roller coaster that I've been on for the last year and a half. I would love to find a combination or a single drug that would make me feel great without have all the side effects (i.e., sexual dysfunctions, fatigue, lethargy, sleepiness, tiredness, agitation, anxiety, apathy, irritability, headaches, dry mouth, tremors, dizziness, constipation, etc) Thanks in advance! It's very encouraging to hear that someone is doing so well. Take care and hope to hear from you soon. Please respond to my thread posted on 12/2/98 if you get a chance.

 

Re: C.J. Luvox

Posted by Nancy on December 2, 1998, at 18:02:27

In reply to Re: C.J. Luvox, posted by Michael Schell on December 2, 1998, at 14:57:12

>I just was losing hope from all the other meds and was ecstatic when I had the experience with Luvox.
> > C.J.

> >Hey C.J.,
>what is your dose of Luvox,
>What are you being treated for
>What are the side effects you have?
>What other medications or Vitamins or whatever do you take with the Luvox that gives you such a good respone?
>I hope you'll answer my enquiries. I really would like to get off this medication roller coaster
>I would love to find a combination or a single drug that would make me feel great
>Thanks in advance! It's very encouraging to hear that someone is doing so well. Take care and hope to hear from you soon.

Hi, C.J. My name's Nancy. I'd really like to hear more about the aforementioned questions, if it's not too personal.

Thanks,
Nancy

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by Matt on December 19, 1998, at 2:15:49

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by Shirley on November 12, 1998, at 20:25:46

Anafranil can cause both weight gain and sexual disfunction (erectile disfunction and difficulty achieving orgasm). Luvox can have both of these effects, too, though probably more people will experience them (to a greater extent) with Anafranil than with Luvox (esp. the weight gain). Anecdotally Luvox is better than the other SSRIs with sexual disfuntion, but there also is anecdotal evidence it's not as effective an antidepressant.

But, the claim that it causes no sexual disfunction is false--like the other SSRIs, it has its share of sexual side effects.

Best,

Matt

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by saint james on December 30, 1998, at 20:06:46

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by Matt on December 19, 1998, at 2:15:49

> Anafranil can cause both weight gain and sexual disfunction (erectile disfunction and difficulty achieving orgasm). Luvox can have both of these effects, too, though probably more people will experience them (to a greater extent) with Anafranil than with Luvox (esp. the weight gain). Anecdotally Luvox is better than the other SSRIs with sexual disfuntion, but there also is anecdotal evidence it's not as effective an antidepressant.
> But, the claim that it causes no sexual disfunction is false--like the other SSRIs, it has its share of sexual side effects.
> Best,
> Matt


James here....

Anafranil is related to the TCA's (it may be one but I am in a hurry and dont have time to surf)
It has all the side effects of a TCA only worse....the TCA's were well known for weight gain and loss of sexual drive or functioning. ( the way it effects men in functioning is varied...I have heard of the common problems of erection and resolution and some unusual ones on TCA's) Probably these problems will be greater on Anafranil than the other TCA's. Good luck in finding an AD with no sexual sideeffects...even in the ones that report no sideeffect (sexual) I know people who report it. I moved off TCA's because after 10 yrs I realized I had become a monk/eunic to effexor and remerom...reported to have little sexual sideeffects. I find they do have some...but clearly much less than TCA's and prozac. As to the weight gain issue...Virgina..there are no AD's than don't cause weight gain in some (most) people ! YOu are better off countering this with diet and exersise
than trying to find the right pill.

james

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by harry on April 1, 1999, at 6:29:26

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by Shirley on November 12, 1998, at 20:25:46

shirley, the weight gain is almost certainly asociated with the anafranil. either by apetite increase and/or metabolic alterations.
Luvox can also cause weight gain in patients.
reading what you wrote here, i'd recommend his asking his doctor about ADDING wellbutrin. This may significantly increase sexual desire AND even help with the weight increase.
best of luck.

 

Re: Luvox

Posted by Scott on April 2, 1999, at 10:08:45

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by harry on April 1, 1999, at 6:29:26

I have been on Anafranil for almost 2 years and have wondered if the weight gain has been from it. I never used to have a probable with it, but have noticed that if I exercise regularly and eat moderately I can control. As far as the Sexual issues, I am not sure. I never had a problem with sexual things before, but sometimes it takes forever to reach orgasm with my wife. I am only 28, so I am young to have orgasm problems. I have asked my doctor about it before and he said that it works for me, so why change. I don't necessaryly agree with that, but I have been able to lead a productive life and no obessions have limited me. I have tried to come off of it once, by slowly going off of it, and when I stopped taking it, I got extremely light-headed, and dizzy and almost non functional. That does scare me. Sometimes I feel like I won't be able to come off it. I have been reading more about Luvox. My only concern is sleeping at night. Anafranil helps me sleep. Thoughts, suggestions on anything I wrote. Thanks!

Scott

 

Thanks for the idea, Harry

Posted by Shirley on April 3, 1999, at 16:42:02

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by harry on April 1, 1999, at 6:29:26


Thanks for the advice, Harry. I wrote my question so long ago, I'm afraid to go back and read it (it's like listening to your own voice on a recording--it's embarassing).

I would say that sexual DESIRE isn't really his problem, though.

The Wellbutrin, while I've tried it myself and HATE it, might be the ticket, though. He doesn't have any depression, just ocd, so maybe it would affect him differently. My experience was that it did effectively suppress my appetite, but it made me suicidally depressed, or at least more so than I already was. Ha. I mean Ha!

I mentioned this to my husband, and I think we both agree that in these types of situations--when the weight gain is NOT controlled with diet and exercise--medication may just help counteract whatever the anafranil (which is completely effective, by the way) is doing to cause the weight problem.

Unfortunately, he LIKES his psychiatrist, and I just know that man won't agree. Especially since it's not something he usually does (they only want to use what they are familiar with), but mostly because HE didn't think of it himself. I'm disappointed in this particular Dr, because he hasn't done anything to address my husband's complaints.

Oh well, and so it goes....


> shirley, the weight gain is almost certainly asociated with the anafranil. either by apetite increase and/or metabolic alterations.
> Luvox can also cause weight gain in patients.
> reading what you wrote here, i'd recommend his asking his doctor about ADDING wellbutrin. This may significantly increase sexual desire AND even help with the weight increase.
> best of luck.

 

Re: If it aint broke, why fix it

Posted by shirley on April 3, 1999, at 17:01:13

In reply to Re: Luvox, posted by Scott on April 2, 1999, at 10:08:45

Hey, Scott--you're not too young to have orgasm problems! Oh sorry, I was thinking that would be HELPFUL to know.

Boy, can I relate to your doctor's attitude about the med issue (if it works, let's not change it). My husband's doctor is the SAME WAY. In fact, I think he phrased it exactly that way. I mentioned this before, but it is ANNOYING that these dr's don't seem to want to address these issues (sexual side affects and weight gain) that ARE so important to people.

If you are like my husband, though, you're just relieved to feel "normal" again--the anafranil DOES WORK to ELIMINATE ocd with him. He's been on it since it came out, for maybe 6+ years. It's interesting that you mention the sleep issue, too. He is also worried about not being able to sleep if he switches to something else.

Also, he sometimes delays his dose, or skips a dose. This might help.

I think we need to be more assertive with these psych doctors. Instead of describing the problem, maybe we need to actually TELL them that we expect something to be done. It also helps if you have some knowledge of your options--then you can just tell them what exactly to prescribe. I do this all the time with my primary care doctor, because I guess he's too busy to educate himself on ALL med issues. Calm down, Shirley.......This is just my ranting and raving here. I just know Dr. Bob or someone is going to "set me straight" here!

I hope you find a useful solution. Good luck, Scott.


> I have been on Anafranil for almost 2 years and have wondered if the weight gain has been from it. I never used to have a probable with it, but have noticed that if I exercise regularly and eat moderately I can control. As far as the Sexual issues, I am not sure. I never had a problem with sexual things before, but sometimes it takes forever to reach orgasm with my wife. I am only 28, so I am young to have orgasm problems. I have asked my doctor about it before and he said that it works for me, so why change. I don't necessaryly agree with that, but I have been able to lead a productive life and no obessions have limited me. I have tried to come off of it once, by slowly going off of it, and when I stopped taking it, I got extremely light-headed, and dizzy and almost non functional. That does scare me. Sometimes I feel like I won't be able to come off it. I have been reading more about Luvox. My only concern is sleeping at night. Anafranil helps me sleep. Thoughts, suggestions on anything I wrote. Thanks!
>
> Scott

 

Re: If it aint broke, why fix it

Posted by Nancy on April 5, 1999, at 9:58:12

In reply to Re: If it aint broke, why fix it, posted by shirley on April 3, 1999, at 17:01:13

> Boy, can I relate to your doctor's attitude about the med issue (if it works, let's not change it). My husband's doctor is the SAME WAY. In fact, I think he phrased it exactly that way. I mentioned this before, but it is ANNOYING that these dr's don't seem to want to address these issues (sexual side affects and weight gain) that ARE so important to people.
>
> If you are like my husband, though, you're just relieved to feel "normal" again--the anafranil DOES WORK to ELIMINATE ocd with him. He's been on it since it came out, for maybe 6+ years. It's interesting that you mention the sleep issue, too. He is also worried about not being able to sleep if he switches to something else.
>
> Also, he sometimes delays his dose, or skips a dose. This might help.
>
> I think we need to be more assertive with these psych doctors. Instead of describing the problem, maybe we need to actually TELL them that we expect something to be done. It also helps if you have some knowledge of your options--then you can just tell them what exactly to prescribe. I do this all the time with my primary care doctor, because I guess he's too busy to educate himself on ALL med issues. Calm down, Shirley.......This is just my ranting and raving here. I just know Dr. Bob or someone is going to "set me straight" here!
>
Set you straight??? WHY! Your's is an honest and correct summation of pdoc ego. I have had to put up with several such docs. Interestingly, the current pdoc is supposed to be a top flight bipolar disorder specialist. I'm so unimpressed with him that I'm switching to a different pdoc.
The new pdoc, I have already interviewed, sees my honors degree in chemistry and graduate research in neuroscience as an asset to our cooperative effort in treatment of my bipolar-1 illness. This pdoc is receptive.

Nancy

 

Re: If it aint broke, why fix it

Posted by Elizabeth on April 5, 1999, at 22:51:02

In reply to Re: If it aint broke, why fix it, posted by Nancy on April 5, 1999, at 9:58:12

Set you straight??? WHY! Your's is an
honest and correct summation of pdoc ego. I
have had to put up with several such docs.
>Interestingly, the current pdoc is supposed to
>be a top flight bipolar disorder specialist. I'm
>so unimpressed with him that I'm switching to
>a different pdoc.

"VI. The worst psychiatrists charge the most, and world experts are the worst." - _Mount Misery_ (Samuel Shem)

>The new pdoc, I have already interviewed,
>sees my honors degree in chemistry and
>graduate research in neuroscience as an asset
>to our cooperative effort in treatment of my
>bipolar-1 illness. This pdoc is receptive.

Yeah, that's a good attitude. I wish that more of them approached things this way. I can identify with those who have encountered patients who tried to get them to do something rash despite reasonable arguments - I've spoken to people who had this attitude myself, and it is, indeed, annoying. However, that's no excuse for treating every patient the same (for always assuming the worst) rather than acknowledging that we are individuals - or for summarily denying us a part in our treatment.

 

Re: If it aint broke, why fix it

Posted by Nancy on April 6, 1999, at 14:39:39

In reply to Re: If it aint broke, why fix it, posted by Elizabeth on April 5, 1999, at 22:51:02

You got that right! This treatment resistive bipolar-1 disorder has been one nightmare after another (feel free to email me, anyone, if you'd like to talk out your poor treatment issuses). Then, I FINALLY convinced my pdoc to ALLOW me to get ECT. It has been the ONLY treatment that got me out of a long disabling and chronically suicidal depression. Then, I FINALLY convinced my pdoc to prescribe T3 & T4 (for my chronically low-normal thyroid), which should be in the upper-quartile of the "normal range" for this type of severe bipolarity. I am, now, FINALLY getting closer to being euthymic than I ever have been in the past 3yrs!!!

note: I am also on 150mg Effexor XR and 175mg of Seroquel. Furthermore, I have done extensive research into this disorder. I would not have made suggestions to my pdoc without having the proper knowledge.

Take good care of yourself,
Nancy

> Set you straight??? WHY! Your's is an
> honest and correct summation of pdoc ego. I
> have had to put up with several such docs.
> >Interestingly, the current pdoc is supposed to
> >be a top flight bipolar disorder specialist. I'm
> >so unimpressed with him that I'm switching to
> >a different pdoc.
>
> "VI. The worst psychiatrists charge the most, and world experts are the worst." - _Mount Misery_ (Samuel Shem)
>
> >The new pdoc, I have already interviewed,
> >sees my honors degree in chemistry and
> >graduate research in neuroscience as an asset
> >to our cooperative effort in treatment of my
> >bipolar-1 illness. This pdoc is receptive.
>
> Yeah, that's a good attitude. I wish that more of them approached things this way. I can identify with those who have encountered patients who tried to get them to do something rash despite reasonable arguments - I've spoken to people who had this attitude myself, and it is, indeed, annoying. However, that's no excuse for treating every patient the same (for always assuming the worst) rather than acknowledging that we are individuals - or for summarily denying us a part in our treatment.

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by David on April 16, 1999, at 5:06:30

In reply to Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Shirley on November 2, 1998, at 0:10:55

> I have taken anafranil ( and several other tricyclics) and know what you mean about sexual side effects. I have one positive comment though- I read an article about Fluvoxamine that stated it produced the least amount of sexual side effects in patients (n at least when compared to SSRI's).
Anyway fluvoxamine is a lot cleaner and it may cause less disfunction. I can say that Celexa ( which is what i am currently on) is a whole lot better on the Sexual side effects department- its also the "cleanest" of the SSRI's so far ( although that may be of little or no clinical import).

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by donna on April 29, 1999, at 11:54:45

In reply to Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Shirley on November 2, 1998, at 0:10:55

It scares me to read about people who are so into drugs. You should try a healthy diet, exercise and a temperate lifestyle. I know you scoff at me but having to take drugs to live is not normal and you are making it a way of life around which your world revolves. I found this site doing a websearch on "luvox" which is a drug Eric Harris was on (of the Colorado shootings). I found many many site where people testified that the use of these drugs never cures people and they never get off them, and often suffer terrible side effects. Bottom line is they are never "cured" which is hwat I see happening with you folks. You guys just keep taking more drugs.

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by Laura on September 11, 1999, at 8:34:28

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by donna on April 29, 1999, at 11:54:45


to shirley who thinks we are on drugs for no reason: You obviously dont have OCD, or do not know anyone who has it.
You are crazy if you think we are on these drugs because we like
them, or use them for a crutch. Anafranil has saved my life, literally,
because I was close to a break down before being
introduced to it. So sad so little is still taken
seriously when it comes to mental illness in todays world!

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by JohnL on September 11, 1999, at 11:58:58

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by Laura on September 11, 1999, at 8:34:28

>
> to shirley who thinks we are on drugs for no reason: You obviously dont have OCD, or do not know anyone who has it.
> You are crazy if you think we are on these drugs because we like
> them, or use them for a crutch. Anafranil has saved my life, literally,
> because I was close to a break down before being
> introduced to it. So sad so little is still taken
> seriously when it comes to mental illness in todays world!

I read an article in Psychology Today magazine, Oct '99, that had a pros and cons debate between a psychiatrist who is quitting the profession due to his perceived over-use and financilly-corrupt drug industry, and a mainstream psychiatrist who leans toward pharmacology. Both sides have merits I think. I think the pro argument won, because indeed there are millions of lives documented that have been saved and improved with medicines. Unless someone has been there, it's profoundly impossible to comprehend and extremely easy to critique. Some do well with psychotherapy, but often psychotherapy provides frustrating results untill medical intervention takes place first. Medical advances today make it possible for folks to have effective choices when another approach falls short. Folks who improve or are cured with medicine are able to have a brand new life that otherwise would not be possible. I think if it works, great. And if it aint broke, don't fix it. Fortunate we all have free choice.

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by dj on September 11, 1999, at 14:30:41

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by JohnL on September 11, 1999, at 11:58:58

> >
> I read an article in Psychology Today magazine, Oct '99,

Oct. 98, perhaps?

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by JohnL on September 11, 1999, at 15:55:32

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by dj on September 11, 1999, at 14:30:41

> > >
> > I read an article in Psychology Today magazine, Oct '99,
>
> Oct. 98, perhaps?

Oct 99. "Are Psychiatrists Betraying Their
Patients?" Page 40. Interesting debate in it.

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by someoneusa on October 30, 2000, at 4:42:23

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by donna on April 29, 1999, at 11:54:45

> It scares me to read about people who are so into drugs. You should try a healthy diet, exercise and a temperate lifestyle. I know you scoff at me but having to take drugs to live is not normal and you are making it a way of life around which your world revolves. I found this site doing a websearch on "luvox" which is a drug Eric Harris was on (of the Colorado shootings). I found many many site where people testified that the use of these drugs never cures people and they never get off them, and often suffer terrible side effects. Bottom line is they are never "cured" which is hwat I see happening with you folks. You guys just keep taking more drugs.


donna- until you suffer from depression, ocd or anxiety please dont speak such junk! i was very opposed to medication and finally at 29 years old have decided to get a hold of my life and start the road of antidepressants. they arent perfect and not too much fun when you arent on the right ones. but it beats not sleeping or sleeping all the time and suicidal thoughts,ect. my boyfriend has ocd without the c. he goes through hell everyday and has since he was a child! once again i wasnt sure meds where the way to go, but the docs(yes plural) all agreed that he needed meds and probably always will! he is switching from celexa( gave him no sexual side effects but made him very tired- did nothing for his ocd either) to luvox and we are crossing our fingers. i am on 300mg wellbutrin sr and 30mg buspar. i am still not sure that this is the right combo for me but i tried zoloft and although it helped my depression i had no sexual desire and was in bed all day everyday! with wellbutrin atleast i get up and get things done! drugs arent always the answer but they are around for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!!! you wouldnt tell a person with heart problems to just diet and exercise and skip his drugs! COME ON! educate yourself and lose the ignorance! i am sorry if i am being harsh but my life has been hard and i cant sit here and take this crap from someone who has not walked in my shoes!
maria

 

Re: Luvox/Anafranil question

Posted by R.Anne on October 31, 2000, at 21:21:42

In reply to Re: Luvox/Anafranil question, posted by someoneusa on October 30, 2000, at 4:42:23

> > It scares me to read about people who are so into drugs. You should try a healthy diet, exercise and a temperate lifestyle. I know you scoff at me but having to take drugs to live is not normal and you are making it a way of life around which your world revolves. I found this site doing a websearch on "luvox" which is a drug Eric Harris was on (of the Colorado shootings). I found many many site where people testified that the use of these drugs never cures people and they never get off them, and often suffer terrible side effects. Bottom line is they are never "cured" which is hwat I see happening with you folks. You guys just keep taking more drugs.
>
>
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> donna- until you suffer from depression, ocd or anxiety please dont speak such junk! i was very opposed to medication and finally at 29 years old have decided to get a hold of my life and start the road of antidepressants. they arent perfect and not too much fun when you arent on the right ones. but it beats not sleeping or sleeping all the time and suicidal thoughts,ect. my boyfriend has ocd without the c. he goes through hell everyday and has since he was a child! once again i wasnt sure meds where the way to go, but the docs(yes plural) all agreed that he needed meds and probably always will! he is switching from celexa( gave him no sexual side effects but made him very tired- did nothing for his ocd either) to luvox and we are crossing our fingers. i am on 300mg wellbutrin sr and 30mg buspar. i am still not sure that this is the right combo for me but i tried zoloft and although it helped my depression i had no sexual desire and was in bed all day everyday! with wellbutrin atleast i get up and get things done! drugs arent always the answer but they are around for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!!! you wouldnt tell a person with heart problems to just diet and exercise and skip his drugs! COME ON! educate yourself and lose the ignorance! i am sorry if i am being harsh but my life has been hard and i cant sit here and take this crap from someone who has not walked in my shoes!
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And a lot of people who were on alcohol committed crimes and ended up in jail, too. That doesn't mean everyone on booze ends up in trouble. The same goes for luvox and eric.

It isn't true that none of the psychotropic drugs work. I am improving with the use of them!! You probably have never felt bad enough to need medication so you do not understand. I suggest you get educated on mental illness and psychotropic drugs and how they do help a lot of people. Exercise helps, too, I'll agree. Many people cannot function without the drugs you are criticizing so harshly. Let me tell you what I think-you do not know what you are talking about.


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