Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 10337

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Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by Rob on August 19, 1999, at 6:20:50

I dont remember last time i posted something, but.
Ive taken the advice from the responses to my last post and went to a pyschologist. After talking to him twice he told me that i should see a pychaitrist and should go on anti-depressents soon, but that would mean i have to stop taking ritalin...which i dont want to do.
I still really dont know much about ADs, does anyone know what the most common one for me would be to take? its seems like there is a hundred differnt types.
My other problem is that my drug addiction has gotten worse. In the past couple months i have just gone overboard. i dont know why i'm doing stupid stuff like this.
In the past 3 months i have done around 30 hits of acid. (i'm going to stop doing that stuff very soon). but I already gave someone my money yesterday to buy me Crystal Meth and extacy. I just think that if i do strong "happy drugs" like those i will feel better.
but i do know that after they wear out that i'm going to be even more depressed etc. than before.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm to confused about everything in my life to really think straight about anything.
~Rob~

 

Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by Phil on August 19, 1999, at 6:51:38

In reply to Update on me. and a couple other questions., posted by Rob on August 19, 1999, at 6:20:50

> I dont remember last time i posted something, but.
> Ive taken the advice from the responses to my last post and went to a pyschologist. After talking to him twice he told me that i should see a pychaitrist and should go on anti-depressents soon, but that would mean i have to stop taking ritalin...which i dont want to do.
> I still really dont know much about ADs, does anyone know what the most common one for me would be to take? its seems like there is a hundred differnt types.
> My other problem is that my drug addiction has gotten worse. In the past couple months i have just gone overboard. i dont know why i'm doing stupid stuff like this.
> In the past 3 months i have done around 30 hits of acid. (i'm going to stop doing that stuff very soon). but I already gave someone my money yesterday to buy me Crystal Meth and extacy. I just think that if i do strong "happy drugs" like those i will feel better.
> but i do know that after they wear out that i'm going to be even more depressed etc. than before.
> Anyone have any suggestions? I'm to confused about everything in my life to really think straight about anything.
> ~Rob~

>>Rob,
Sounds like you are self medicating big time. If you can't stop the street drugs on your own, get help. Then go see a good psychopharmacologist and start with SSRI's-the doc will have some suggestions, I'm sure! Crashing off of crystal is not much fun. Coming down off it many years ago I really began to understand the word 'DEPRESSED". Good luck friend...Phil

 

Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by yardena on August 19, 1999, at 8:04:46

In reply to Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions., posted by Phil on August 19, 1999, at 6:51:38

It's clearly not the ritalin you have to contend with, it's the street drugs. It is possible to be on antidepressants and ritalin at the same time, although I don't know if it is a good idea for you--that is for the psychopharmacologist and you to figure out. Do you think you would be helped by doing an inpatient drug program first to get the addiction under control before tackling the depression, or while beginning your treatment of the depresseion?

 

Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by jamie on August 19, 1999, at 18:30:14

In reply to Update on me. and a couple other questions., posted by Rob on August 19, 1999, at 6:20:50

Rob you gotta quit first. Really quit. It's not too late yet to do it on YOUR terms. Don't let a jail cell, or an ambulance, or smashed car, or an unemployment line determine when you quit. Talk about depression! Yikes! Do it on YOUR terms. Don't wait for the usual catastrophic climax. Nobody ever thinks it will happen to them. But it always does. Except to those who quit first. Use up whatever you have left, have fun, make it the last. Better to tough it out in the world than in jail, right?

I been there. I don't like jails, coffins, hospitals, or unemployment lines. But you wanted hints on drugs, not a lecture, right? Here's one...Revia(naltrexone). it's for addicts to stop and also goes good with something like prozac. do it on YOUR terms. See a doc? OK? thank you, jamie.

 

Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by Kat on August 19, 1999, at 21:49:52

In reply to Update on me. and a couple other questions., posted by Rob on August 19, 1999, at 6:20:50

> I dont remember last time i posted something, but.
> Ive taken the advice from the responses to my last post and went to a pyschologist. After talking to him twice he told me that i should see a pychaitrist and should go on anti-depressents soon, but that would mean i have to stop taking ritalin...which i dont want to do.
> I still really dont know much about ADs, does anyone know what the most common one for me would be to take? its seems like there is a hundred differnt types.
> My other problem is that my drug addiction has gotten worse. In the past couple months i have just gone overboard. i dont know why i'm doing stupid stuff like this.
> In the past 3 months i have done around 30 hits of acid. (i'm going to stop doing that stuff very soon). but I already gave someone my money yesterday to buy me Crystal Meth and extacy. I just think that if i do strong "happy drugs" like those i will feel better.
> but i do know that after they wear out that i'm going to be even more depressed etc. than before.
> Anyone have any suggestions? I'm to confused about everything in my life to really think straight about anything.
> ~Rob~

Whoa!!! I am a recovering addict of 2.7 years. What I hear is addiction and if you do not get straight first-NO AD will help. Look up AA or NA in the phone book. You aren't doing anything bad you are just sick and need the RIGHT help.
Don't let anyone fool you or string you along about legal drugs for AD or whatever. You must stop doing the street drugs. Meth sucks, LSD sucks and they all wrecked my chemistry and it is slowly being restored, but obviously not real quick. Please stop using first.

 

Re: Update on me. and a couple other questions.

Posted by Racer on August 20, 1999, at 0:32:43

In reply to Update on me. and a couple other questions., posted by Rob on August 19, 1999, at 6:20:50

Oh, Rob, you do know that you have to stop, don't you? Of course you don't want to stop, but that's just the fear and the demon of addiction. No, I'm not a religious wacko, I just think of some of my own problems as being demons. I have had three demons in my life, or four, depending on how I count them. One demon was the drug demon, he's the one who made it so hard and so FRIGHTENING for me to say no to drugs, or to stop taking them. The next demon was the anorexia demon, the one that told me that he could kill all the other demons if only I'd make myself worthy by being thin enough. Then there's the BIG demon, the depression demon. The depression demon actually rules the others, because if I get control over him, the others have to hide, too.

What I know is this: if someone came in here right now, with drugs, almost any drugs, and offered them to me, I would probably say yes. That's what I know after being totally clean for over a decade, and despite the fact that I find people who take drugs to be really boring. Trust me, there's nothing more unforgiveable to me than being boring. Yet I'd make myself boring by taking drugs, if there were drugs in front of me. What does that tell you? It tells me that that demon is powerful, but that I'm more powerful. I know it doesn't sound that way, but despite my suspicion that I'd take drugs again, I'm still clean. You know why? I'm strong enough to know my weakness in this area, and make decisions accordingly. Conscious decisions, not that fake, "gee, I really didn't know that there would be drugs here, so it's not really my fault, and I can take them and make an excuse..." Decisions like not going somewhere where it's likely that I'll be tempted. Not having friends who are disrespectful of me and show me drug related behavior after I've made my feelings about it clear. I don't ever crave drugs anymore, but I also know that I am very likely to be weak in their presence.

So, fight your demon. You are strong enough. Hell, if I could do it, anyone can! C'mon, Rob, you can do it, and I'll help any way I can!

Lots of people in the recovery movements say that ADs are just another drug, signs of the addiction. Not true, ADs are going after the root cause, not the symptoms. Right now, you want to ease your pain and your fears. The street drugs and the ritalin may make you think that they can do it, but it only lasts a little while, and then everything is worse. What you need is for the windows to be opened, the light let in to show you that the monsters under the bed are not real. What you saw in the half-light was only a shadow, nothing to be afraid of.

Good luck to you, and my warmest thoughts going your way. It's even worse to go through something like this feeling alone, and you're NOT! My only regret in my own case was that I wasted so much time taking the drugs when I could have been LIVING my life, and finding so much more to be happy about.


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