Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 9028

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enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst

Posted by paul on July 21, 1999, at 15:22:52

I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.

Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?

Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.

 

Re: enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst

Posted by JohnL on July 21, 1999, at 18:18:31

In reply to enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst , posted by paul on July 21, 1999, at 15:22:52

> I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
>
> Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
>
> Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.


Hi Paul. I've tried and studied lots of the same things. I found loading up on supplements of all kinds was somwhat helpful, but nothing to write home about, nothing to rely on. Fish oils, B vitamins, SAMe, picnogenol, tyrosine, GABA, yohimbe, DL Phenylalanine, etc. etc.

I don't know how to increase GABA transport. Concerning Tyrosine, the body has a self-limiting mechanism and I don't know how to get around that. Large amounts of 5HTP get right in the brain and respond to dose, but Tyrosine isn't quite like that. It's availability is limited. The body uses what it needs and wastes the rest. Would be interesting to find a way around that. Good question.

Many books and articles claim success with Tyrosine supplements. But the actual clinical research studies I've seen so far showed no benefit over placebo. Who knows. We're all different and it just might work for some. Hope something works out for you. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but wanted you to know that you aren't the only one thinking about these things. Perhaps others will post some interesting info. Take care. JohnL.

 

thanks

Posted by paul on July 22, 1999, at 10:34:26

In reply to Re: enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst , posted by JohnL on July 21, 1999, at 18:18:31

> > I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
> >
> > Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
> >
> > Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.
>
>
> Hi Paul. I've tried and studied lots of the same things. I found loading up on supplements of all kinds was somwhat helpful, but nothing to write home about, nothing to rely on. Fish oils, B vitamins, SAMe, picnogenol, tyrosine, GABA, yohimbe, DL Phenylalanine, etc. etc.
>
> I don't know how to increase GABA transport. Concerning Tyrosine, the body has a self-limiting mechanism and I don't know how to get around that. Large amounts of 5HTP get right in the brain and respond to dose, but Tyrosine isn't quite like that. It's availability is limited. The body uses what it needs and wastes the rest. Would be interesting to find a way around that. Good question.
>
> Many books and articles claim success with Tyrosine supplements. But the actual clinical research studies I've seen so far showed no benefit over placebo. Who knows. We're all different and it just might work for some. Hope something works out for you. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but wanted you to know that you aren't the only one thinking about these things. Perhaps others will post some interesting info. Take care. JohnL.

JohnL:

I was scrolling down, expecting no one to have answered my post. Thanks for posting; it sounds like you've been thinking along the exact same lines. And thanks for that about tyrosine; perhaps I shouldn't spend any more money on it (I haven't been buying huge quantities or anything).

GABA doesn't seem to have much effect. That blood-brain barrier can be like a scrutinizing bouncer at an elite club, but I guess it's that way to protect...

Thanks again and keep me posted or send me an e-mail.

 

Re: enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst

Posted by anna on July 22, 1999, at 11:02:08

In reply to enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst , posted by paul on July 21, 1999, at 15:22:52

> I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
>
> Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
>
> Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.

I'm also really interested in the benefits of amino acids and enzymes. From what I,ve read they could help with all sorts of problems but I dont know how much is just hype and marketing. My doctor is trying to find out more so i'll pass on whatever she comes up with. As John said too its hard to know if the body is able to use extra supplements and I guess there may be problems with the brain using what is there but i think its definitely worth trying. i'll keep you posted
anna

 

neurotransmitters

Posted by anna on July 22, 1999, at 12:49:50

In reply to enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst , posted by paul on July 21, 1999, at 15:22:52

> I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
>
> Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
>
> Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.

I,ve found two sites that may be of interest. One is about a product called em balance so i dont know how true it all is but it is very interesting to read and learn all about amino acids and neurotransmitters. its addy is
http://www.nutra-chem.com
the other site is http://www.drugtext.nl/sub/neuro.html
I hope you find them interesting.
By the way, when I write an address down for someone do i have to put the http:// or is that there for all addys?
Thanks , anna

 

neurotransmitter-related sites.

Posted by paul on July 22, 1999, at 15:38:08

In reply to neurotransmitters, posted by anna on July 22, 1999, at 12:49:50

> > I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
> >
> > Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
> >
> > Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.
>
> I,ve found two sites that may be of interest. One is about a product called em balance so i dont know how true it all is but it is very interesting to read and learn all about amino acids and neurotransmitters. its addy is
> http://www.nutra-chem.com
> the other site is http://www.drugtext.nl/sub/neuro.html
> I hope you find them interesting.
> By the way, when I write an address down for someone do i have to put the http:// or is that there for all addys?
> Thanks , anna

Hi anna,

I'll check out those sites. By the way, you can leave off the "http://" part and just go straight to "www" or whatever.

Good luck!

 

Thanks Paul.

Posted by anna on July 23, 1999, at 8:35:46

In reply to neurotransmitter-related sites., posted by paul on July 22, 1999, at 15:38:08

> > > I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
> > >
> > > Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.
> >
> > I,ve found two sites that may be of interest. One is about a product called em balance so i dont know how true it all is but it is very interesting to read and learn all about amino acids and neurotransmitters. its addy is
> > http://www.nutra-chem.com
> > the other site is http://www.drugtext.nl/sub/neuro.html
> > I hope you find them interesting.
> > By the way, when I write an address down for someone do i have to put the http:// or is that there for all addys?
> > Thanks , anna
>
> Hi anna,
>
> I'll check out those sites. By the way, you can leave off the "http://" part and just go straight to "www" or whatever.
>
> Good luck!

 

Re: enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst

Posted by saintjames on July 24, 1999, at 15:01:19

In reply to Re: enhance, potentiate, synergy, catalyst , posted by anna on July 22, 1999, at 11:02:08

> > I'm trying to tweak the effectiveness of various supplements by coadministering enzymes, catalysts, or other things that work synergistically with the supplements.
> >
> > Has anyone tried this approach? I wonder if there is anything available which would enhance GABA's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. Are there any enzymes or catalysts which can help in converting the amino acid tyrosine into dopamine?
> >
> > Anyone who thinks like this, share your ideas with me. Thanks.
>
> I'm also really interested in the benefits of amino acids and enzymes. From what I,ve read they could help with all sorts of problems but I dont know how much is just hype and marketing. My doctor is trying to find out more so i'll pass on whatever she comes up with. As John said too its hard to know if the body is able to use extra supplements and I guess there may be problems with the brain using what is there but i think its definitely worth trying. i'll keep you posted
> anna

James here....

Actually, as he said, there is a feed back loop with aminos and many precusors so the more you take above x point is sluffed off...

james


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