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Posted by Caz on May 28, 1999, at 6:14:05
I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
Anyone else used dothiepin?
Posted by glenn on June 3, 1999, at 17:11:12
In reply to Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Caz on May 28, 1999, at 6:14:05
> I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
>
> Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
>
> Anyone else used dothiepin?yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
all the best
glenn
Posted by Caz on June 3, 1999, at 18:13:48
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by glenn on June 3, 1999, at 17:11:12
Thanks for responding Glen. I went back to my doc and told him about my concern and he asked me to try the slow release version of effexor, I did and it's been great! I guess the dosage level makes all the difference. I still can't sleep without a sedative but the anxiety is abating already and, strangely, the chronic back pain I've had for months has gone too, a good side effect I guess :)
> > I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
> >
> > Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
> >
> > Anyone else used dothiepin?
>
> yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
> all the best
> glenn
Posted by glenn on June 19, 1999, at 9:03:31
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Caz on June 3, 1999, at 18:13:48
> Thanks for responding Glen. I went back to my doc and told him about my concern and he asked me to try the slow release version of effexor, I did and it's been great! I guess the dosage level makes all the difference. I still can't sleep without a sedative but the anxiety is abating already and, strangely, the chronic back pain I've had for months has gone too, a good side effect I guess :)
>
> > > I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
> > >
> > > Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
> > >
> > > Anyone else used dothiepin?
> >
> > yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
> > all the best
> > glenn
glad you have found something good maybe i will be inspired to try effexor sr if one can get it over here, no side eefects for you?
Posted by Caz on June 22, 1999, at 22:40:48
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by glenn on June 19, 1999, at 9:03:31
> > Thanks for responding Glen. I went back to my doc and told him about my concern and he asked me to try the slow release version of effexor, I did and it's been great! I guess the dosage level makes all the difference. I still can't sleep without a sedative but the anxiety is abating already and, strangely, the chronic back pain I've had for months has gone too, a good side effect I guess :)
> >
> > > > I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
> > > >
> > > > Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else used dothiepin?
> > >
> > > yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
> > > all the best
> > > glenn
> glad you have found something good maybe i will be inspired to try effexor sr if one can get it over here, no side eefects for you?
Well Glen, no side effects to 75 mg Effexor XR except a possible hormonal one which I posted about seperatly :) I feel great and don't feel like I am taking anything at all. My mood has improved a lot but still feeling a little anxious - mostly if I wake at night (I have a weird form of anxiety that only affects me at night) and I take 1mg of Xanax if that happens.best wishes
Caz
Posted by Maggie Rothwell on July 2, 2000, at 3:49:10
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Caz on June 22, 1999, at 22:40:48
> > > Thanks for responding Glen. I went back to my doc and told him about my concern and he asked me to try the slow release version of effexor, I did and it's been great! I guess the dosage level makes all the difference. I still can't sleep without a sedative but the anxiety is abating already and, strangely, the chronic back pain I've had for months has gone too, a good side effect I guess :)
> > >
> > > > > I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
> > > > >
> > > > > Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else used dothiepin?
> > > >
> > > > yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
> > > > all the best
> > > > glenn
> > glad you have found something good maybe i will be inspired to try effexor sr if one can get it over here, no side eefects for you?
>
>
> Well Glen, no side effects to 75 mg Effexor XR except a possible hormonal one which I posted about seperatly :) I feel great and don't feel like I am taking anything at all. My mood has improved a lot but still feeling a little anxious - mostly if I wake at night (I have a weird form of anxiety that only affects me at night) and I take 1mg of Xanax if that happens.
>
> best wishes
> Caz
> I have been taking Dothiepin for years. It helped at first but now not. I am convinced that it builds up a tolerance but my consultant insists not. Any information?
Posted by SLS on July 2, 2000, at 6:58:43
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Maggie Rothwell on July 2, 2000, at 3:49:10
> I have been taking Dothiepin for years. It helped at first but now not. I am convinced that it builds up a tolerance but my consultant insists not. Any information?
Tricyclics are not as likely as SSRIs to "poop-out" and stop working. However, as a layman, I would not be insistent that this cannot happen with dothiepin. I don't know of any antidepressant that is without the risk of depression break-through. Perhaps you simply need to increase the dosage. If this doesn't help, I would not worry. It does not sound like you are treatment-resistant, so I think you will be successful hunting for a new drug.
Have there been any psychological stresses recently that may account for medication break-through?
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by Jona on October 31, 2000, at 4:00:27
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Caz on June 3, 1999, at 18:13:48
> Thanks for responding Glen. I went back to my doc and told him about my concern and he asked me to try the slow release version of effexor, I did and it's been great! I guess the dosage level makes all the difference. I still can't sleep without a sedative but the anxiety is abating already and, strangely, the chronic back pain I've had for months has gone too, a good side effect I guess :)
>
> > > I have never heard of this drug and I haven't found much info online. I am supposed to try it because of adverse reactions to paxil and zoloft. Well I am hesitant to try because of how awful I felt when taking the other two. Also tried effexor and it was ok but made me too jittery (zoloft made me a nauseous zombie and paxil gave me such severe vertigo I couldn't stand up).
> > >
> > > Treatment is for persistent anxiety and insomnia. I don't actually feel depressed but doctors keep prescribing me anti-depressants.
> > >
> > > Anyone else used dothiepin?
> >
> > yes i used it for 6 months, mildly helpful for mr, started low and went slow, very few side effects, much less than zoloft/ sertraline as we call it inengland and paxil /paroxetine, those 2 drove me wild very quickly
> > all the best
> > glenn
My Doctor just perscribed Dothep 25 to me, to help me sleep. I have an enlarged left ventricle in my heart, and I have to watch what I take (although I'm only 27), he said it was ok to use this drug. I've tried Zoloft before, that made me panic a little. Has anyone ever had any pulpitations on Dothep?>jona
Posted by Cate on March 13, 2001, at 17:06:12
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Jona on October 31, 2000, at 4:00:27
I have just been prescribed Dothiepin 25mg which I am supposed to take two of before I go to sleep. I am terrified of taking them because previously I took one 20mg of Cipramil just before I went to sleep and spent the entire night feeling the most ill I have ever felt. Sick, dizzy, hot and sweaty and not really in my own head. Because I was alone and it was night it made it worse. I never took them again.
What are the side effects of Dothiepin when taken for the first time? Should I make sure I have someone with me? Should I take them in the day for the first time?
Cath
Posted by Maggie Rothwell on March 18, 2001, at 12:51:12
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Cate on March 13, 2001, at 17:06:12
> I have just been prescribed Dothiepin 25mg which I am supposed to take two of before I go to sleep. I am terrified of taking them because previously I took one 20mg of Cipramil just before I went to sleep and spent the entire night feeling the most ill I have ever felt. Sick, dizzy, hot and sweaty and not really in my own head. Because I was alone and it was night it made it worse. I never took them again.
>I have had bad side effects the second time I was prescribed Dothiepin so worked up to the full 75mg dose by starting with only one 25 mg capsule. This was Ok for me until it ceased to work as I had been taking it for so long.
> What are the side effects of Dothiepin when taken for the first time? Should I make sure I have someone with me? Should I take them in the day for the first time?
> Cath
Posted by Maggie Rothwell on March 25, 2001, at 6:31:25
In reply to Re: Dothep aka Thadin (dothiepin hydrochloride), posted by Maggie Rothwell on March 18, 2001, at 12:51:12
> > I have just been prescribed Dothiepin 25mg which I am supposed to take two of before I go to sleep. I am terrified of taking them because previously I took one 20mg of Cipramil just before I went to sleep and spent the entire night feeling the most ill I have ever felt. Sick, dizzy, hot and sweaty and not really in my own head. Because I was alone and it was night it made it worse. I never took them again.
> >I have had bad side effects the second time I was prescribed Dothiepin so worked up to the full 75mg dose by starting with only one 25 mg capsule. This was Ok for me until it ceased to work as I had been taking it for so long.
> > What are the side effects of Dothiepin when taken for the first time? Should I make sure I have someone with me? Should I take them in the day for the first time?
> > CathWhen I had problems with Dothiepin I felt sick and dizzy and sort of numb inside my stomach. Nothing too scary happened though. I was always prescribed them to take at night as they were supposed to help me sleep. I found they actually seemed to keep me awake at first and then I would have difficulty getting up in the morning. I think it is probably best to take them as prescribed but see the doc and ask if you can start with a low dose and work up if you experience any problems.
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