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Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.

My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.

My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.

So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.

My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.

I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?

Thanks for your time and advice.

 

Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by JohnL on June 11, 1999, at 3:36:24

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

> Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.
>
> My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.
>
> My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.
>
> So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.
>
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your time and advice.

Racer, I'm not a doc, just a depressed and concerned responder to your post. Based on what you claim, your doc should be replaced with another. That cliche claim that you need therapy to make the drug work is simply a symptom of the doc's ignorance or frustration at being impotent to terminating your suffering. Sure, therapy is helpful along with the drug, they work together better than either alone. But in the absence of therapy, the right med should bring substantial relief. Cinical researchers judge "success" usually by either a 50% reduction of Hamilton scores, or a Hamilton score less than a certain number (usually representing more than a 50% reduction of symptoms). If your doc has never even given you a test to establish a baseline to begin with, so as to objectively determine progress, then he/she might as well try an ocean voyage without a compass. Even my own humble neighborhood clinic, a Nurse Practitioner (not even a doc!), gave me this test on my very first visit before venturing a diagnosis. Your post sounds like you would score pretty badly on a test right now, FAR from what would be called success. Effexor IS combined with all sorts of meds, proof and examples abound on the net. (Doesn't this doc keep up?) And when things aren't going well, AT LEAST a doc should offer optimism, reassurance, hope. I had a psychiatrist just as you describe, horrible people skills (the most important skill required for the job!). Sorry, I get real upset when I see someone suffering in the hands of a perceived ignorant doctor. If you are going to suffer and deal with frustrating response to a drug, at the very least you need a concerned (not defensive) doctor who knows a lot about depressive disorders and has a decent bed-side manner. Who pays who anyway? (You're the boss). JohnL.

 

Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by JohnL on June 11, 1999, at 4:42:19

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

> Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.
>
> My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.
>
> My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.
>
> So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.
>
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your time and advice.

Racer and all, I apologize for my excessively long posts. Here's what I meant. The Hamilton test and the Beck's Depression Inventory test are common industry standards to objectively measure progress/success/failure. Doctors treating mental illness and exhibiting questionable people skills tarnish their profession. There are lots of better docs who deserve your money and would gain extreme gratification in treating you. You have two problems, one with the drug, one with the doc. The drug problem is not likely to be corrected without fixing the doc problem first. If you decide to find another doc, share your reasons with your current doc, it might help him/her in the future. Find one who can squeeze you into their schedule very soon. In the meantime, don't risk rocking the boat alone, stay on your medicine. Hopefully a doc will respond to your post and offer professional advice. JohnL.

 

Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by JohnL on June 12, 1999, at 2:21:21

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

> Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.
>
> My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.
>
> My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.
>
> So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.
>
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your time and advice.

Racer, here a day later and I see there is no doctor response yet. Sorry. You know, for the whole day I couldn't stop thinking about that ridiculous doc of yours. That really struck a nerve with me. What kind of responsible practitioner of medicine seemingly ignores talk of suicide? Hey, in another post you mentioned driving 5 hours to another doc. Good idea. Don't think you're alone. My psychiatrist likes the idea of moclobomide, considering my long list of failures and/or side effect sensitivities, and approved me to drive to Canada to get some...5 hours for me. As my doc said, "Not everyone has a choice, you do. It's not like you're going to Africa. It's an afternoon drive." Go for it. I'll think about you over the hum of the tires, and I'll bet ya we aren't the only ones. Also, really study the posts here on Parnate (MAOI). Give it more of a consideration. Take care, best wishes, JohnL.

 

I'm no doctor, but I play one on TV.....

Posted by Shirley on June 13, 1999, at 1:42:09

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

Hi Racer,

Not really.

What planet is your doctor from? I recall that you've mentioned your frustration in finding a good doctor. Have you considered a nurse-practioner-type of therapist (they can prescribe medication)? I know that in my area (Pacific NW), psychiatrists are booked up for weeks and sometimes months in advance--not very helpful when one is feeling suicidal. Some nurse-practioners know as much about these meds as the doctors they often work with. Just a suggestion.

Effexor....I've found Trazodone to be helpful for sleep, but there are many, many other meds to choose from for sleep (somebody once implied that I should be a poster child for Trazodone). It was mentioned in another post below that Effexor limits REM sleep, which explains a lot (even though I slept with Trazodone/Effexor, I never felt "rested").

Neurontin works well for me (it's been the most effective one I've tried so far). I began using it with Effexor, and it has been very helpful in neutralizing my mood swings. It also made me feel pleasantly "buzzed" at first, which was a vast improvement over my usual mood. That particular side effect has diminished over time, though. Neurontin is frequently prescribed as a pain reliever, which can't hurt either... : )

I've been tapering off the Effexor, though, and will give Celexa a try next (along with the Neurontin). My goal is to have just two pill bottles to deal with, and not the 5 or 6 I have now (some in different mgs). Sometimes I think I'm well enough that I should just taper off all of them, so maybe I'll try that next.

Sometimes you just have to be the one to figure out what to try next. Doctors tend to stick to their own tried and true meds, and may actually welcome your suggestion (particularly if you've done some of your own research). The ones who DON'T want to hear your opinion are the ones to avoid. My limited experience has been that the better ones like to deal with a patient who is self-informed--they tend to be the ones who are also well-versed in the newer drugs, too.

So many meds; so little time!

Take care, Racer...

Shirley

 

Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by saintjames on June 13, 1999, at 4:41:02

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

>
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your time and advice.

How about Remeron and Effexor? I take both effexor (300-400 mgs) and remeron 15 mgs. This combo is considered a big gun. I have had no problems.

james

 

Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question

Posted by Judy on June 13, 1999, at 10:03:50

In reply to Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by saintjames on June 13, 1999, at 4:41:02

James,

Effexor and Remeron is the combo my doctor has suggested I try next. I am currently taking Nardil which works wonderfully for my depression, but the side effects are attrocious.

Do you feel any sedation from the E/R combo? Sexual dysfunction? Any anxiety/panic symptoms? Can you sleep at night? Did you have any trouble starting Effexor before working up to your high dosage?

Your answers might help me make my decision. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.

Judy

 

Answers to Judy's questions

Posted by Racer on June 13, 1999, at 12:26:16

In reply to Re: Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Judy on June 13, 1999, at 10:03:50

Hi, Judy, thanks for entering this thread. It was getting lonely.

My experience with Effexor was wonderful, even though it hasn't helped my depression much at all. To begin with, I started it after coming off Serzone, which was awful for me. I was lying awake most nights, with all the demons in heck ranged around my bed telling me that I was the worst person in the world, etc. Just couldn't relax and get my mind off my problems to sleep. Usually cried instead of sleeping. On Serzone, I was miserable, my muscles ached from being so tense, and in the end I couldn't keep any food down at all. That was the point at which the doctor finally said that maybe it wasn't the drug for me...

The first three nights on Effexor I couldn't sleep at all. Nonetheless, I got up each morning feeling better. Even though I couldn't sleep, I was lying in bed fully relaxed, not worrying, and resting. After those three nights, I could sleep again, though I'm still waking up now and again, which may be the drug, and may be the damn cats! (Don't ask. My apartment is infested with cats. My bed is usually a demilitarized zone, but once in a while they forget that.) While it is more difficult to achieve orgasm, it's still possible and they're still satisfying. I haven't gained weight, but then the eating disorder may have something to do with that. No major bowel disturbances, though that's hard to tell since I tend to have those problems anyway. It's 100% effective on the anxiety portion of my depression. The only problem I have with it is that I'm still depressed and suicidal.

Of all the anti-depressants I've ever been on, this is my favorite by far. I only wish it were doing its job on the depression.

I'm gonna go look up Remeron now...

 

AD + T3 + T4 -> OK

Posted by nancy on June 15, 1999, at 15:02:54

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

history of treatment resistivity, here...meds became effective only after adding thyroid hormones T3 (cytomel) and T4 (synthroid). the key, however, was to pump up the T3 and T4 hormone levels into the 75% area of the normal range. it's not likely, though, that your inept pdoc will try this adjunct therapy.


> Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.
>
> My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.
>
> My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.
>
> So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.
>
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your time and advice.

 

anorexia/manic depression and ADD

Posted by Cynthia on June 16, 1999, at 0:45:31

In reply to AD + T3 + T4 -> OK, posted by nancy on June 15, 1999, at 15:02:54

Hi racer,

I have all three of the above. Up until a few months ago, I was on 4 different types of anti-depressants and lithium all at once. Everytime I felt any incling of a symptom of depression, I'd request my psychiatrist to give me more pills, QUICK (how's that, lots of anxiety about depression). I love my pills! Three months ago, we also figured out I have attention deficit disorder, and I began taking Dexedrine. Well now I am on no anti-depressants, 300 mg of lithium, 10 mg of Dexedrine, and I haven't felt better in years. The dexedrine was what I needed. It's a stimulant, and helps people with ADD concentrate long enough to do things they simply can't do because it simply bores the hell out of them. It has not only relieved me of these symptoms, but it has relieved me of, what I thought was, depression. Even the depressive days of my cyclothymic cycles are bearable. Dexedrine starts and keeps me on a cycle where even though I may be having a chemically bad day (on my cyclothymic cycle), at least I get things accomplished, and the next day is better because of this. and so on and so on.

Dexedrine also decreases appetite, so you may have a problem getting it if your doctor knows your anorexic. My weight's stable at 115 lb (acceptable) and I haven't, this far, abused any drugs. It may be worth your while to try it.

I had horses my whole childhood. I love the company of animals. Enjoy them.

Cynthia

 

re: help

Posted by Cynthia on June 16, 1999, at 22:07:41

In reply to anorexia/manic depression and ADD, posted by Cynthia on June 16, 1999, at 0:45:31

> Hi racer,

I know you know, but you need some real help right now. Like emergency room help, or seeing a psychiatrist at least once a week help.

Once you get some stability, why don't you try writing or faxing some doctors in your part of the world for some regular and serious help. And then maybe drive, or have someone drive you however long it takes to get there at least once a month.

For me, the worst thing about anorexia is there is no pill for it. I know I need lots and lots of therapy. I've joined an eating disorders group that meets once a week. It helps alot! An excellent book is K. Zerbe's, 'The Body Betrayed' if you haven't heard of it yet. Many anorexic and bulimic people suffer badly from depression.

good luck,
let us know how you're doing.
Cynthia

 

Dexedrine

Posted by Beager on June 16, 1999, at 23:23:07

In reply to anorexia/manic depression and ADD, posted by Cynthia on June 16, 1999, at 0:45:31

I was given Dexedrine about three months ago for possible ADD. I had spent several years on Prozac with moderate results; my doctor thought that I was depressed because I couldn't concentrate and was nervous. Dexedrine (5 mg) was *the* answer, I had never felt more relaxed, confident, energetic, and my concentration was excellent. But this only lasted for about five days. Then it stopped working and I "crashed" by becoming so angry and irritable that I was scared for my safety. I went off for a month, then tried again. Same thing happened.

Is there a way to get Dexedrine to work consistantly? I'm on Celexa now, it's not doing too much, should I combine the two? Or try another ADD med?

(My doctor is willing to perscribe meds, but it's really up to me to decide what I need, she's pretty clueless as to the different kinds and how they work.)


> Hi racer,
>
> I have all three of the above. Up until a few months ago, I was on 4 different types of anti-depressants and lithium all at once. Everytime I felt any incling of a symptom of depression, I'd request my psychiatrist to give me more pills, QUICK (how's that, lots of anxiety about depression). I love my pills! Three months ago, we also figured out I have attention deficit disorder, and I began taking Dexedrine. Well now I am on no anti-depressants, 300 mg of lithium, 10 mg of Dexedrine, and I haven't felt better in years. The dexedrine was what I needed. It's a stimulant, and helps people with ADD concentrate long enough to do things they simply can't do because it simply bores the hell out of them. It has not only relieved me of these symptoms, but it has relieved me of, what I thought was, depression. Even the depressive days of my cyclothymic cycles are bearable. Dexedrine starts and keeps me on a cycle where even though I may be having a chemically bad day (on my cyclothymic cycle), at least I get things accomplished, and the next day is better because of this. and so on and so on.
>

 

Racer & Beager

Posted by Cynthia on June 17, 1999, at 23:52:17

In reply to Dexedrine, posted by Beager on June 16, 1999, at 23:23:07

Beager,

What you said about Dexedrine working and then not working just gave me incredible amounts of anxiety. After lithium, this has been my best drug ever. I'm inbetween psychiatrists, but once I get one I'll ask him about this if noone has responded.

Cynthia

Racer,

Some severely practical advice. Why don't you get yourself a good Canadian husband or American one, as long as he is insured up to his ying yang. Summers in Canada, free doctors (we pay for them of course by taxes, but health care has nothing to do with how much you make). People here complain about things like, 'oh, my insurance only covers 80% of my medications, or damn it, my insurance doesn't cover naturopaths.'. And winters in the states; this really appeals to Canadians, trust me. Lot's of horse country up here.

Just an idea racer.
Let us know how you're doing.
Cynthia

 

Re: Racer & Beager

Posted by Beager on June 18, 1999, at 0:18:14

In reply to Racer & Beager, posted by Cynthia on June 17, 1999, at 23:52:17

> Beager,
>
> What you said about Dexedrine working and then not working just gave me incredible amounts of anxiety. After lithium, this has been my best drug ever. I'm inbetween psychiatrists, but once I get one I'll ask him about this if noone has responded.

Don't panic, if you've been taking Dexedrine for a while, you're probably fine. It just quit on me so quickly; I've never heard of this happening. Great stuff, though, isn't it?


Beager

 

Oh, Cynthia, if you only knew...

Posted by Racer on June 19, 1999, at 0:47:18

In reply to Racer & Beager, posted by Cynthia on June 17, 1999, at 23:52:17

I love this idea, for reasons beyond the practical. Alas, men don't seem to look at me anymore, and they've never offered to marry me. I look at my friends, one of whom has been married FIVE TIMES, and wonder: how come just one won't look at me?

Answer, well, I know what part of it is. I'm smart, and don't hide that well. Also, most men I date ask why I'm "afraid to express my femininity", which is absurd, it's just that I express it by being a smart woman in jeans or breeches, rather than a perfectly coiffed skirt wearing flirt. Still feminine, by definition. Just that men don't seem to see the attraction in it.

This is part of my depression, by the way. I can't remember the last time a man expressed any interest in me, except my ex-boyfriend (whom I loved, but was not attracted to.) No other man seems even to have looked at me for the last ten years, when before that, I could almost beat them off with sticks and still have a date on Saturday night. It's hell for the ego, not to mention the part about wanting someone to care about me.

Oh, well...

>
> Racer,
>
> Some severely practical advice. Why don't you get yourself a good Canadian husband or American one, as long as he is insured up to his ying yang. Summers in Canada, free doctors (we pay for them of course by taxes, but health care has nothing to do with how much you make). People here complain about things like, 'oh, my insurance only covers 80% of my medications, or damn it, my insurance doesn't cover naturopaths.'. And winters in the states; this really appeals to Canadians, trust me. Lot's of horse country up here.
>
> Just an idea racer.
> Let us know how you're doing.
> Cynthia

 

Re: Women and sexual side effects b/c of efexor

Posted by sally on June 25, 1999, at 0:43:52

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

I have been taking Efexor for about six months and Depakote for about a year now, and I have been noticing some pretty strange sexual side effects. Every time I orgasm, I lose control of my bladder and urinate. This is not female ejaculation, since it is clearly urine that is coming out. It is very embarrassing not to mention gross. I was wondering if anyone else has been having the same problems. If you do, please email me at medzgirl@yahoo.com.


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