Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 93

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ambien

Posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

Last night I took 20 mg of ambien (prescribed) and twenty minutes later was intimate with partner. I have very few memories of this. I also acted aggresively which is not my nature. Then after the intamcy I told my partner I didn't really remember. I felt cognition during certain aspects of the intamcy. It felt like a dream or like I was drugged. Is this normal? Has anyone else had similar reactions or side effects??

 

Re: ambien

Posted by ptsd on July 5, 1998, at 18:39:26

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

> Last night I took 20 mg of ambien (prescribed) and twenty minutes later was intimate with partner. I have very few memories of this. I also acted aggresively which is not my nature. Then after the intamcy I told my partner I didn't really remember. I felt cognition during certain aspects of the intamcy. It felt like a dream or like I was drugged. Is this normal? Has anyone else had similar reactions or side effects??


What was the ambein prescrbed for ?

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 1998, at 8:47:56

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

> I have very few memories of this...

Sometimes benzodiazepines are thought to be
associated with memory problems or with
"disinhibition" (feeling less inhibited). Maybe
this was something similar?

Bob

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Ictinus on July 19, 1998, at 5:18:00

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

It sounds like you may have been taking this med without experiencing this effect otherwise. I wonder if you might have had an innocent glass of wine or two that evening. The combination might bring about your disoriented, disinhihited affect. Then again I remember (well soft of) similar reactions to Halcion (w/o alcohol) some years ago!

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Toby on August 6, 1998, at 16:08:09

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Ictinus on July 19, 1998, at 5:18:00

As Dr. Bob said, this reaction is common with sedative medications. Even though Ambien is not a benzodiazepine, it still can have this effect. I have seen this very, very frequently with Ambien and also that tolerance to the sleep effects occurs very quickly (if you take it every night, very soon it has no effect on putting you to sleep). I say run quickly away from Ambien and any other sedative medication. Do other things to help your sleep such as warm milk (releases tryptophan in the brain that induces sleep), warm herbal tea, getting up after 30 minutes of no sleep and doing something unpleasant like cleaning the house and then returning to bed when you feel sleepy, and also do not drink alcohol within 3 hours of bedtime and do not sleep more than an hour past your usual getting up time on weekends or holidays (keep that schedule regular).

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Levi on August 11, 1998, at 2:47:54

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

I know a significant amount of people who have had bizarre experiences with ambien. Don't shy away from meds, as someone suggested. 20mg of ambien is a hefty dose. I have had my own experiences with high doses and have hallucinated, exlusivelly in visual terms - like a face changing expressions on a picture. Or what's on T.V. becoming a conglomerate of parts mimiking something that is loose, has no relation in common logic. Ambien is good for elderly people - 5-10 mg, if that. The benzodiazepines will not only put you to sleep, they will, if you choose correctly, KEEP you asleep. Perhaps you have anxiety, in which case you could kill two ducks with one pill. I also believe that ambien's memory effect at 20mg may cause obsessional thinking. i.e. You "have" to know about a particular sentence you said to your friend last night, bacause you were in a hypnotic state and might have actied inappropriately, the point being that you DON"T KNOW what you said, and this could, G-d forbid, lead to obssesions, warranting not just a benzo, but an ssri, etc. Try different benzos perhaps. Memory is quite important...

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Toby on August 12, 1998, at 12:02:03

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Levi on August 11, 1998, at 2:47:54

Levi, don't make me hurt you....
I still say avoid Ambien and the benzodiazepines for sleep because of tolerance to their sleep effects. Some people do not become tolerant and that's dandy. But why risk it when there are other, not pharmacological means by which to get a good night's sleep. And another thing: Do you really want a medication that is going to put you in a trance and give you amnesia for what you say and do? Do you really want a medication that may prevent you from acting appropriately in case there is a fire or you kid gets sick in the middle of the night?
By all means, if there is depression or anxiety present, prescription meds can be very helpful. But one also needs to use the behavioral changes along with the medications.
If prescription meds are required, I say try a sedating antidepressant first like trazodone or doxepin. Generally tolerance does not develop and you can stop it cold turkey without withdrawal and it won't show up as an ilicit substance in a urine drug screen at work. You could also try Visteril (hydroxyzine) which is a relative of Benadryl but I find that it doesn't make you feel like you've been hit with a hammer in the morning.
Everyone reacts to different medications differently. That's why there are so many medications on the market. But when you are just starting out, you need to start with meds that do the least harm (primum non nocere), not put someone on a potentially addictive medication for a potentially short term problem.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by The plumber on August 13, 1998, at 5:32:17

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Toby on August 12, 1998, at 12:02:03

Toby, your response regarding addictive substances clearly reveals your misunderstanding of NBD. You are obviously a CNP - a chronically normal person. CNP's, MD, PHD, - whomever - unless you have had severe NBD, you are in great lack of understanding. I apologize to the more "realistic" people, Md's PHDs, if they are able to understand- for many, many psychiatrists can get a "taste" of their patients inner being, especially after twenty-some yrs. of practice and research.

I will reveal your ignorance in a step-by step fashion: First, let me say that it seems as though you don't even understand the goal of psychopharmacolgy that is applicable. I had panic attacks, and I finally lowered my pride and made an appointment with Dr G. and I was immediatelly prescribed xanax. Let me tell you the story from the inside....
Yoga, meditations, breathing excersizes are fine for what Torrey terms WWW The walking worried well-people walk around smiling at themselves all day -"achieved" tranquility, inner peace. But what does this imply? (1) These people do not have serious clinical panic disorder. What if I told you to take medication A and told you that it won't work if you think about , say, a monkey. You will spend all day thinking of a monkey! The relation? It is a disorder in itself that people spend their lives using a "mental" "control" to alleviate a function of the brain. When you try to control something, so that it goes away, you necesarilly spend your days in some or another "method" and because you have it in mind to forget or alleviate the problem as such, the problem is constantly on the person's mind. Today I'll try Dr.premed's breathing excersises and then tonight I'll see if yoga can get me to sleep. If yoga doesn't work, then I'll take a hot shower and relax. Still uncomfortable, I'll stick with Psychology Today's program of "getting on with life" And, before I go to bed I'll read Bootsie's article that I heard has 5 simple steps that get rid of worrying.
Now I'm ready for bed...an hour, two hours...I end up with three hours of sleep a night. Take a look at this example and figure it out. This person is wasting their days, their very own life stuck up in all this 'methodology".
When I get up I'll keep thinking of my 12 step list which Bertha says is good. I'll concentrate on these till about noon, until, at the office Mr. Executive comes in to talk. I feel nervous because he is my primary boss. I get uncomfortable so I try the breathing excersizes and then abrubtly I'm asked a question, so I cough to distract him while i think of step #3. But then I notice that the executive sees that I'm anxious. Then, BAMM I loose my breath, my pulse is felt in every corner of my body, my arms get numb, my chest won't :move" and I have to quickly grab a tissue and pretend my nose is bleeding so that I can run to the bathroom and try to end the attack. I come out 10 minutes later, apologize, and continue talking while thinking of Yoga tonight, and following thursday's poetry line for the day - then the discussion is over and I can't beleive that this happenned. So I opt for step 6 of Breathings by Billy, and that requires me to take my shoes off and think of an ocean, or a bird. Meanwhile, I'm drenched from the panic attack, and worn out, but I must remember step 9 that says tomorrows another day.

Now it's the next day, and the same basic routine. I'm either dwelling on the possibility of panicing, or I'm having a panic attack. And the next day....I get fed up so I go to a psychoanalyst who I see 4 times a week. We talk about my childhood fears, and I leave feeling more relaxed. But I have to go to the market - I go and BOOM another one. It doesn't let up. I finally come to the conclusion that I need to be medicated.
I go to Dr. Z and he prescibes an ssri for the panic. Or an other sedating med. It works to the extant that I only have two or three panic attacks a week, week after week.up to 12 when I think the med is working. Then, the next week, the nubness, lack of breath, it all comes back.

Does this sound absurd to you? Imagine living it!~ And, if you think that a case as such does not ruin the lives of countless numbers of good people you are entirely mistaken - all of your patients lie to you! Now, lets describe the humane approach. This will be Dr.G Dr.G is compassionate. He does not go by rule A that says never give this or that med because they will become addicted. He is also not a sponser of rule B which says that psychiatrists should not "give out drugs". Now what is the difference? He (Dr.G) is not stubborn on some principle that the DSM makes. He is not insistent that Yoga, or, the worst, Mr. Hubbard might help. His thinking is not geared towards his own moral and ethical judgements. These are secondary. If I am predudice againast anybody who comes from Mississippi, that is my ethics - my learned morals and steryotyping and classifications. But its secondary. I know there is three people from Mississippi across the street. As I walk out to get in the car, I notice there is a fire. I now put what's right, what's wrong, what's addictive, what's "not?" addictive, what my morals dictate, my notions concerning ethnicity and education - all this is put on the backburner. Why, because my PRIMARY objective overides and surpasses all other principles - I run into the building, and save the three people from Mississippi. Why? Because i didn't stand on principle. I acted out of true duty that I owe to another human being. It's like driving in a car...Everone is in a rush and hates evryone when they are driving. This guy's a shmuck for getting in the left lane, this other guy is a shlemeil - going under the speed limit! Then, WHOOPS! I crash into shmuck #1. We are both o.k. We get out of the car and we are both in a shock state and the first question comes out from both people at the same time - "are you o.k.? That's the concern. Anger may come later, but that does not negate the fact that the shmuck with the grin on his face is as fragile and kind as you are!
Now you don't think this applies to a swift prescription of a benzodiazepine. My Dr.G prescribed it the first day. I'm sure he knew that I wasted alot of time, somewhat similar to the case above, and he also new that I needed immediate relief. He acted out not by principle, not by DSM but what he empathized in me. He put evrything on the backburner for a little; he went with his professional stature, and saw me as a human being who needed relief, who needed this to stop. It was my Dr. that prevented me from wasting more time trying to sqare the circle. Your argument is based on what-if circumastances. These are governed by hollow words. The instict to provide relief is based on true feeling and care, in a professional way, for a person that needed it.

I'm sorry to tell you, but trazadone, one of your "miraculous" meds could cause sleepiness and Mrs. Penelope may veer off the road because of drowsiness. Cough syrup, that can cause an accident. Listen, if you can't be a mentch, if you don't have the guts to be a good psychopharmocologist/psychiatrist/whatever - get out! I sometimes wonder how many people walk around feeling like their lives are falling apart because their Doctors' are inadequate - they are afraid of "overprescribing" and "what -ifs?" And so the crises gets bigger. It's principle - not reality. I'm Mr. Lipshitz and I take 10mg of prozac a day. My Doctor is afraid to go higher. I go up to twenty. Then I see him rarely and I'm miserable, everyone tells me i'm mean and depressed, i sleep all day - why? Doctor prissy was scared. I won't mentioned the lost lives, the true non-survivors who fell into such circumstances. Read over your letter again, three times...and you will see that you are entirelly mistaken, or that you were in a mood and was playing devil's advocate.

Ahh.. you say - I'm not talking about prozac, I'm reffering to "unnecesary addictive controlled substances" - Any good clinician knows when it is appropriate to prescribe any med. If not, he is not working at full capacity. Yes, an SSRI followed - took about 6 months! My case happened to be quite more complex, I take "addictive" substances" that my Dr. prescribes. If he were to stand in your shoes, I would probrably be staring at the wall, or ranting and going off on tangents. I would have flat affect, etc. But now, I look good! Nobody would ever guess! Why? Because my Dr. and I worked as a team to try to improve the situation. He listned, and I respected. When I tell people they can't believe it. Why? One med that can easily cease to wake you up in the middle of a midnight fire. This is like water, something I need. I also take a II controlled substance - more than you think! Without this, I won't evn go into describing what its like to have no emotion. So, my Doctor prescribes this, very, very, constrained and supervised -= but he knows that it'slike water. He could say no and I would be very different and my struggles and obstacles would be multiplied beyond function. And the goodness in the situation is that, very tightly and restrictively, I am able to take a large dosage of II. I could get a roomful of people that know me and will all wave flags that say "He needs this medication!' I need others too, and i am not mocking anything that you prescibed in your letter (like trazadone). I'm merely getting the point out to whomever reads this message that the person facing the Dr. is a world in itself. And a good psychiatrist doesn't over-generalize. He treats each case as a distinct and unique person in all respects.

I conclude by saying that your "opening" line was indicative of an illness on your part. It was sick. Also, my above examples are VERY TYPICAL and if you don't know this then you really don't understand your own practice. Some patients can just do yoga. Some can go fishing. some need an immediate "addictive" substance. One end note: Haldol is heavy - Perphenazine - that wouldn't cause drowsiness! But xanax - or ambien - these will totally knock you out. Tolerance? Just like anything else - count the advantages and disadvantages. Don't think that people who only have a sleep/tired problem or someone with panic attacks is necessarilly an "option" for going light on the case - im most cases this person's life governed by unwanted whatever - and a psychiatrist doesn't see patients. Rather, a person seeks out a psychiatrist.


 

Re: ambien

Posted by Brooks on August 13, 1998, at 5:46:10

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

> I have very few memories of this. I also acted aggresively which is not my nature.

I have used ambien in the past, and I also noticed a lot of similar effects. Serious loss of memory, odd behaviour - sort of like being _really_ drunk, w/o the stumbling, loss of motor coordination, or CNS depression. A couple other people I know, have also tried ambien. They report the same sort of effects. I believe, the key is to stick to trying to sleep (at least for a few hours, maybe an hour, dunno) after taking it, kinda like they say. Otherwise, well, you've found out what happens. I didn't find ambien very effective in promoting sleep, BTW.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Toby on August 13, 1998, at 9:39:58

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Brooks on August 13, 1998, at 5:46:10

I have obviously triggered bad memories in The Plumber of bad docs who don't listen to what the patient is saying, both verbally and non-verbally and docs who just go by a cookbook approach and treat symptoms without looking at the big picture of what is happening in the patient's whole life. The Plumber accuses me of over-generalizing and being phobic of addictive drugs. Actually, what else can you do but generalize in a forum like this? There are many people reading these postings, not just the person who asked the question. In fact, the question was specific to sleep problems, not panic disorder and my answer was specific to that question. I do not like to prescribe addictive medications for sleep when that is the only problem (the reason being that if you just treat symptoms without treating the underlying cause can make things much worse in the long run -- like taking aspirin for a headache which gives you ulcers and doesn't treat the brain tumor that causes the headaches). As I said in the last posting, if there is depression or anxiety present, treat with drugs, and I will add: treat with whatever will get the patient better. I start with the behavioral stuff because MOST people get better with that if it is a result of bad habits or situational worry. However, while I still give patients the behavioral stuff, I will also give them medications if it's more than situational or bad habits. Both can work together. I also said that not everyone responds to all medications equally; so what it took to get you better may make someone else deathly ill and while SSRI's didn't work for you (and I wouldn't have futzed around for 6 months with them) there are many people who get complete remission of their panic with them alone.
I apologize for offending you, Plumber. I am glad you are better and found a doc who listens.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Levi on August 14, 1998, at 0:29:36

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Toby on August 13, 1998, at 9:39:58

The plumber ahs informed me that he excepts your apology, and also that he wishes to apoligize in light of the fact that he was just expressing a general, not necesarrily personal problem that exists to an extant in this feild. His comments were not direted at you personally. As you know, when someone needs to express what they think is important for others to think about, the person usually does so in such context, i.e. by involving another party to make the point. The plumber was just a bit puzzled about you saying that you would hurt him. Plumbers are very sensitive, as you can see from the work they do. The plumber wishes to ofter you two free toilet clogging salution kits...

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Rosie on August 26, 1998, at 9:48:02

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03


> First of all, ask your Dr. to check the dosage of your Ambien, 20 mg sounds extremely high. I take 5 mg. (sometimes I break the tablet in half, therefore, taking 2-1/2 mg.) and I find that this dosage is quite adequate. Depending on your weight, the dosage should be adjusted accordingly. Try to get away from 20 mg., this is very high. Good luck

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Marie on August 26, 1998, at 12:23:52

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Rosie on August 26, 1998, at 9:48:02

>
> > First of all, ask your Dr. to check the dosage of your Ambien, 20 mg sounds extremely high. I take 5 mg. (sometimes I break the tablet in half, therefore, taking 2-1/2 mg.) and I find that this dosage is quite adequate. Depending on your weight, the dosage should be adjusted accordingly. Try to get away from 20 mg., this is very high. Good luck

I have to agree with Rosie. I also take 5mg of ambien and always split them in half whenever I use it. It's been very effective for me.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by kim on August 28, 1998, at 23:08:16

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 1998, at 8:47:56

> > I have very few memories of this...

> Sometimes benzodiazepines are thought to be
> associated with memory problems or with
> "disinhibition" (feeling less inhibited). Maybe
> this was something similar?

> Bob

I have been prescribed ambien in the past for sleep problems. I have definetly experienced memory loss while under the influence of this drug. My doctor looked at me like I had a third eye when I told him this and he commented on it by saying the he never heard of such a thing! When I told him that I also read about this side effect on the internet he stated still that he never heard of it. My experience is that it most definetly does causes lapses in memory.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Lynn on September 2, 1998, at 10:18:40

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03


> Well, it looks like everyone is on the bandwagon about this one! I have always been an insomnia, which in the past has made my depression worse when I don't get any sleep! Along with my current cocktail of Wellbutrin, Neurontin and 1/2 trazadone, I have a supply of Ambien if needed. I don't need this often, and too usually break the pill in half. I find that I drop off very quickly (within 20 minutes). I have no sense of getting sleepy, just wake up the next morning realizing that my brain just shut down.

The package insert tells you to get into bed before you take this drug as you will fall asleep quickly. By no means should you try to do anything after taking ambien. Ambien is known for having no hangover effects the next day as other sleeping meds do, and I find this to be very true. I think it is a great occasional sleep drug when you must get sleep for work the next day etc.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by MAR on September 26, 1998, at 22:25:54

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

I have been very interested in this description of response to Ambien. I have a client for whom we have "banned" Ambien and replaced it with Mellaril because she experiences profound dissociation with the Ambien. Thank you for posting this experience...you've confirmed my decision.
PS: I've just discovered this forum and have found these posts enormously enlightening. Thank you all.
MAR

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Elizabeth on December 14, 1998, at 3:10:55

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

> Last night I took 20 mg of ambien (prescribed) and twenty minutes later was intimate with partner. I have very few memories of this. I also acted aggresively which is not my nature. Then after the intamcy I told my partner I didn't really remember. I felt cognition during certain aspects of the intamcy. It felt like a dream or like I was drugged. Is this normal? Has anyone else had similar reactions or side effects??

Dude, I have had the exact same experience with Ambien! I also get very silly if I take it and then don't go right to sleep afterwards. Ambien works very fast, especially if taken on an empty stomach, so you should expect odd things to happen if you stay awake on it. I find it helps me to get to sleep (and stay asleep for a reasonable amount of time) but doesn't strictly knock me out, so it is possible for me to stay up and get goofy after taking it. (I take 20mg also, after getting a partial response from 10mg. 5mg is pretty minimal - it's the recommended dose for elderly people.)

Never had anything similar happen with benzos, BTW, including Halcion.

I don't think it necessarily means you ought to quit Ambien if it's working for you - I certainly appreciate the horrors of refractory insomnia - but you might want to be more careful about what you do when you're under the influence of it. Of course, if it stops working (as it does for some people - though not all) switching to trazodone (or another sedating antidepressant) or a benzo might be worthwhile. (I've taken Ambien for as much as a year at a time, pretty much every day, without loss of effectiveness, so it is possible.)

In response to Toby: I can't speak for Karen, but I have found that those "natural" methods that you suggest are of little use (especially since most of them are things that I do anyway). Sleep hygeine is certainly a start but for many it is not sufficient (I am familiar with all the tricks, thank you). And yes, I've tried herbal tea, tryptophan, hot baths, etc. and no, I don't drink alcohol or take stimulants such as caffeine. Trazodone, not Ambien, was the drug to whose sedative effect I quickly became tolerant - and I have heard the same from several others who have tried trazodone for insomnia.

I personally don't find the goofy/disinhibited experience harmful or disturbing, although I could see how a more severe reaction (paradoxical stimulation combined with disinhibition/increased impulsivity and more severe amnesia) could be quite dangerous. My amnestic experiences have been strictly of the "hmm, I think I remember doing that, although it sort of felt like a dream" variety.

 

Re: ambien

Posted by Jacqueline K. Vieau on May 5, 1999, at 18:05:52

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Jacqueline K. Vieau on May 5, 1999, at 17:56:20

> > Last night I took 20 mg of ambien (prescribed) and twenty minutes later was intimate with partner. I have very few memories of this. I also acted aggresively which is not my nature. Then after the intamcy I told my partner I didn't really remember. I felt cognition during certain aspects of the intamcy. It felt like a dream or like I was drugged. Is this normal? Has anyone else had similar reactions or side effects??
Karen, I thank you for your and everyone else's mail regarding "Ambien". I took my first dose last night and while I didn't seem to mind then, I have been quite upset all day. I should have minded as what happened me me was quite scary. I am a recovering alcoholic and prescription drug addict. Although I relapsed a few weeks ago, I've been working had on my recovery for the last five years. Last night I took a single 10mg caplet of Ambien about 1/2 hour before I went to bed. My husband thought I had been drinking! Even I had to wonder as a felt so stoned! I hadn't been but I had every feeling like I was such as muscle relaxation, shakiness, trembling and slurred speach. The only thing I cared about was being relaxed and going to sleep. It was frightening though. I woke up during the night and marvelling that slept so great took another half caplet. A few hours later I woke up. Mentally ok then, went about my day although I was extremely fatigued and experienced terrible weankess. I don't believe I'll be taking Ambien again! Strange.

 

Ambien

Posted by paul on May 6, 1999, at 10:31:47

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by Jacqueline K. Vieau on May 5, 1999, at 18:05:52

Ambien has intrigued me. Its effects are so bizarre and dreamy-state-inducing. I have taken it on a few occasions, and have tried staying up for up to one hour after ingestion. The result is a surreal, semi-hallucinogenic dreamy state. The first time I took it, was amazed at how alert I was the next morning. It was if, after years of getting what I considered to be "enough" sleep (measured only in its duration 6-8 hrs, not its quality), I had finally gotten a more dense, high-quality slumber which actually resulted in high energy upon morning arousal.

What a fascinating drug, this "Ambien."

Note that these are simply my observations about this drug, and are not meant to elicit concern, warnings or advice about its use.

 

Re: Ambien

Posted by Joanne on May 10, 1999, at 23:10:21

In reply to Ambien , posted by paul on May 6, 1999, at 10:31:47

Ambien... what a wonderful, frightening word. What a wonderful, frightening drug. At
least to me. Being both depressed (yes, being treated), and co-dependant, I've really
had to be careful. The only times I let myself take ambien, is when I've gone several
days without sleep. Other than that.. the feeling is too intense, and all too likeable
for me.
The sleep I get with Ambien is indeed, very deep, undisturbed sleep. But... there
are consequences. And for me, those are the worry of mis-use.
Please... watch yourself...
I care.

Joanne

 

Re: ambien

Posted by JamesA on September 18, 2000, at 14:29:22

In reply to ambien, posted by Karen on July 3, 1998, at 15:46:03

I was taking ambien in the 1990's after my parents died. I decided to get off this drug when I woke up on the bathroom floor. I had taken my dose just before brushing my teeth.

My doctor said that because I have very little body fat (I am a cyclist) that the drug took affect quickly. My bathroom is not very big - and I did not have any bruising, but I have no memory of laying down on the floor.

 

Re: ambien-JamesA

Posted by jane on September 19, 2000, at 19:25:41

In reply to Re: ambien, posted by JamesA on September 18, 2000, at 14:29:22

> I was taking ambien in the 1990's after my parents died. I decided to get off this drug when I woke up on the bathroom floor. I had taken my dose just before brushing my teeth.
>
> My doctor said that because I have very little body fat (I am a cyclist) that the drug took affect quickly. My bathroom is not very big - and I did not have any bruising, but I have no memory of laying down on the floor.

James A - I've been taking ambien for years and I knew it caused some memory problems. Several months ago at midnight (after taking ambien) my son said I drove to the convenience store with him (he later said I couldn't drive) and went in. He found me on the floor of the store. I then wanted to drive again! I had no memory of any of it. I'm now trying to find a "safer" drug. I tried temazepam and it made me very sick, and still couldn't sleep. Now I'm trying halicon, not a drug I like but I need to sleep more than two hours. jane


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