Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 306

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just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by dragon on August 14, 1998, at 20:52:13

I have just started taking zyprexa and oxazepam. Has anyone heard of zyprexa? I was told by my doctor that it was a new med. I had a violent reaction to Paxil and Atarax. It would be nice to hear someone else's point of view on this

thanks

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Toby on August 19, 1998, at 11:10:22

In reply to just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by dragon on August 14, 1998, at 20:52:13

Zyprexa is one of the new generation antipsychotics called the "atypical antipsychotics." It's made by the same folks that make Prozac. It's called "atypical" because it tends to cause less of the side effects that the old medications caused like movement problems (twitching, writhing, restlessness, rigidity of joints), and it helps the negative symptoms of schizophrenia better than the old medications (like apathy, social withdrawal, slowed thinking).
Zyprexa is also used to help stabilize moods in bipolar patients who are not psychotic and can be used in personality disorders that cause alot of mood changes.
Zyprexa is a good, safe medication. Its main side effect is drowsiness so it's usually given at bedtime. Most people tolerate it pretty good so that it doesn't zonk you out during the day. It can also cause weight gain, but I haven't seen alot of weight gain, maybe 5-6 pounds.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Dave Peters on April 14, 1999, at 6:52:41

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Toby on August 19, 1998, at 11:10:22

I've used zyprexa and oxazepam at the same time, because I suffer from voices in my head.
But it didn't work.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Dave Peters on April 14, 1999, at 6:59:07

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Toby on August 19, 1998, at 11:10:22

Zyprexa needs some time to take effects. Circa 3 weeks. I experienced an increased lust for
appetite and I had to swallow 2 times a day 10 mg from this stuff.
My psychoses did indeed decrease but my voices grew stronger so I decided to quit this stuff
and tried to live without medication and keep my
psychoses under control.
Now I only take oxazepam.
I know this ain't no usefull information for you but I wish you
the best in life.


 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Emily Silverman on April 19, 1999, at 19:17:25

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Dave Peters on April 14, 1999, at 6:52:41

My doctor prescribed Zyprexa, Zoloft and Clonazepam (sp?) for auditory, visual, kinaesthetic and tactile hallucinations, and other things with which you are probably familiar, and which would be a bore to list. These medications produced cessation of hallucinations after three months, and in my very general estimation a ninety percent reduction in perception of range of emotion. Needless to say, this last has been horribly destructive to my playing (I'm a pianist) reducing my performance skills to roughly that of a mediocrely talented conservatory student...So I haven't been taking medication for a week, and my Mozart and Persichetti are by turns once again glorious. This evaluation is not the psychotic ramble of someone who stopped taking her psychotropics, it is the opinion of my chamber music partners, who think that I have at last `recovered'.However, naturally I think Zyprexa is a very good choice for anyone who doesn't have to play the piano, and I've got lots in reserve `just in case'.I would be quite interested to learn details of anyone else's experience with this, and how it might quite possibly positively affect other disciplines such as literature or sport.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Elizabeth on April 20, 1999, at 3:14:42

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Emily Silverman on April 19, 1999, at 19:17:25

Deborah,

First of all my congratulations to you on your career. I've always wanted to pursue music more (I sing classical) - maybe not professionally, but in amateur groups or church choirs, but my depression has kept me struggling just to get by from day to day. Joining a church choir is one of those things I'd like to do when I'm better.

Auditory, visual, kinaesthetic and tactile hallucinations - wow. Interesting combo - was there a diagnosis? And how did *that* affect your piano playing (and other areas of your life)? Have the hallucinations returned since you d/c'd the meds?

A lot of people feel emotional flattening on olanzapine (even using this to their advantage, as for affective disorders), and maybe it wasn't the right med for you, or the dose was wrong.
(How much were you taking, anyway?)

It might be possible to find a happy medium where you take a moderate dose of the antipsychotic, somewhat suppress the hallucinations (maybe not entirely, but enough that you can be functional), and cause minimal problems with your emotional range.

I really do feel for you...career issues are a big one for me: I don't know what I'd do if my illness or med combination made it impossible for me to pursue my work (example would be having ECT - the risk of memory loss is slight, but still, I worry that I might not be up to my former level of academic performance (a big issue for me right now, since I'm applying to med school next year).

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Nancy on April 21, 1999, at 10:09:07

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Emily Silverman on April 19, 1999, at 19:17:25

> My doctor prescribed Zyprexa, Zoloft and Clonazepam (sp?) for auditory, visual, kinaesthetic and tactile hallucinations, and other things with which you are probably familiar, and which would be a bore to list. These medications produced cessation of hallucinations after three months, and in my very general estimation a ninety percent reduction in perception of range of emotion. Needless to say, this last has been horribly destructive to my playing (I'm a pianist) reducing my performance skills to roughly that of a mediocrely talented conservatory student...So I haven't been taking medication for a week, and my Mozart and Persichetti are by turns once again glorious. This evaluation is not the psychotic ramble of someone who stopped taking her psychotropics, it is the opinion of my chamber music partners, who think that I have at last `recovered'.However, naturally I think Zyprexa is a very good choice for anyone who doesn't have to play the piano, and I've got lots in reserve `just in case'.I would be quite interested to learn details of anyone else's experience with this, and how it might quite possibly positively affect other disciplines such as literature or sport.

In my experiences, antipsychotics (atypical or otherwise) are not only sedating but also emotionally blunting. For me, antipsychotics made it impossible to SIT UP at the piano let alone play with any special touch...and then, there's my violin. There should be a label on my antipsychotic medicine bottle that says, "May be disasterous to your talents."

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by katie on April 23, 1999, at 15:56:42

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Dave Peters on April 14, 1999, at 6:59:07

HI. Just a few comments...I was taken off of long term dosing w/ navane for fear of developing tardive dyskinsia, and switched to zyprexa. Comparatively, both meds work eventually for the voices. (I have to watch caffeine intake in the P.M.) I did notice increase of aggression the first week while taking zyprexa, but by the end of second week I was a sweetie.


> Zyprexa needs some time to take effects. Circa 3 weeks. I experienced an increased lust for
> appetite and I had to swallow 2 times a day 10 mg from this stuff.
> My psychoses did indeed decrease but my voices grew stronger so I decided to quit this stuff
> and tried to live without medication and keep my
> psychoses under control.
> Now I only take oxazepam.
> I know this ain't no usefull information for you but I wish you
> the best in life.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Emily Silverman on April 24, 1999, at 19:14:22

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Elizabeth on April 20, 1999, at 3:14:42

ZYPREXA, or DAMNED IF YOU DO, AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T

Hi Elizabeth,Nancy and Katie, and Justin too, whose post I couldn't retrieve on my computer...
Nice to hear fom some people who like music. Perhaps Elizabeth, you could take a very low dose of an A.D., and then you could play and sing? I find that I can't play when I'm depressed, but I can play when I'm psychotic. Fortunately, I'm seldom depressed. Hallucinations don't have an adverse effect on playing, for me. I had a disconcerting relapse into psychosis last week, so I popped a few of my handy pills, and they seemed sufficient.It's nice to hear from people who aren't disapproving of medication 'non-compliance'. BTW, has anyone noticed an insidious but steady weight gain with their meds? Or, at the risk of being vulgar, a complete absence of physical desire? Just two more reasons why I don't feel like swallowing any more pills than absolutely neccessary. I gained fifteen whole pounds in just five months, and who wants to be ugly, linguistically dopey, and completely mediocre at their instrument? Sorry, don't mean to rant. On a more useful note, has anyone tried autogenics exercises? I have used them to drag myself out of impending psychoses several times, and it seems to help, especially when one feels one's body dissipating into a million little points to be strewn across the universe. If anyone wants to discus this, please post a thread, because I adore to discuss this sort of thing.****************************

 

zyprexa

Posted by scott on April 28, 1999, at 15:06:35

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Elizabeth on April 20, 1999, at 3:14:42

Has anyone been using zyprexa for anxiety or insomnia? I was just put on Zyprexa 2 days ago and was wondering how long it takes to "kick in".

 

Re: zyprexa

Posted by Kelly on April 28, 1999, at 20:57:12

In reply to zyprexa, posted by scott on April 28, 1999, at 15:06:35

> Has anyone been using zyprexa for anxiety or insomnia? I was just put on Zyprexa 2 days ago and was wondering how long it takes to "kick in".

I just started taking Zyprexa about 10 days ago, it took about 2 days to get sleep. I only take 2.5MG at night before bedtime. It leveled me out right away on the anxiety though. I also take 20MG a day of Celexa. The combo seems to help, I'm feeling a lot more in control of my mood and I think a lot more "normal." I paint for a living and havn't done any work yet this week, but the people around me think I seem a lot more like my "old" self. I guess that would be the person who doesn't get up at 3am and paint all night, then work all day and disapear on occasion to do God know's what. I guess I'll have to be content with becoming "boring" and average.

 

Re: zyprexa

Posted by Louise on April 30, 1999, at 0:23:46

In reply to Re: zyprexa, posted by Kelly on April 28, 1999, at 20:57:12

> >I was prescribed Zyprexa in Sth Africa last year and after returing to Australia was given it again. I was on 10mg a day 5mg morning & 5mg night. It made my life even worse than it worse. I was so tired and needed at least 14hours a night sleep. I lost my creativity and motivation for anything. I felt depressed and when I gained pounds and pounds I decided to give them away. I haven't taken them for about 10 months now and am working again and have myself back. I would not take this medication again.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by pamela foote on August 25, 2000, at 20:54:01

In reply to just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by dragon on August 14, 1998, at 20:52:13

just started taking zyprexa about 5 days ago. does smoking have any adverse interaction with zyprexa? thanks,

pam

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Sunnely on August 25, 2000, at 22:51:30

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by pamela foote on August 25, 2000, at 20:54:01

> just started taking zyprexa about 5 days ago. does smoking have any adverse interaction with zyprexa? thanks,
>
> pam

Hi Pam,

Yes, cigarette smoking can decrease the effect of Zyprexa (olanzapine), by way of "pharmacokinetic" interaction.

FYI, Zyprexa is primarily metabolized by the liver enzyme called CYP1A2. (Minor roles played by CYP2C19, CYP3A4, CYP2D6, FMO3.) Cigarette smoking induces or stimulates the action CYP1A2. This in turn hastens the metabolism of Zyprexa, leading to a decrease in its blood level, and eventual loss of its effectiveness.

As cigarette smoking can hasten the metabolism, decrease the blood level, and loss of effectiveness of Zyprexa, abrupt cessation of smoking, after a steady-state blood level of Zyprexa has been attained, can lead to decreased metabolism of Zyprexa, leading to increased blood level and side effects.

Other drugs that induce or stimulate the action of this liver enzyme (CYP1A2) and lead to decreased blood level of Zyprexa include carbamazepine (Tegretol), an anti-epileptic and mood stabilizer, and rifampin (Rifadin), an anti-TB medication, and omeprazole (Prilosec) for GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease). Believe it or not, certain food and vegetables can also induce the action of CYP1A2, leading to decresed blood level of Zyprexa, and loss of its effectiveness. These include charcoal-broiled foods and cruciferous vegetables (e.g., broccoli, cabbage, and brussels sprouts).

As there are "inducers" of CYP1A2, there are also "inhibitors" of this liver enzyme. Drugs that inhibit the action of this enzyme have the potential to decrease the metabolism of Zyprexa leading to increase in its blood level and side effects. These drugs include cimetidine (Tagamet), ciprofloxaxin (Cipro) an antibiotic, fluvoxamine (Luvox) an antidepressant, and tacrine (Cognex) for Alzheimer's disease.

JMHO (Just my humble opinion).

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam » Sunnely

Posted by Rapunzel on August 27, 2000, at 4:50:54

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Sunnely on August 25, 2000, at 22:51:30

Sunnely,
You sure seem to know a lot about this medication. Can you give me any info about this inquiry? I have recently been involved in a study of Zyprexa for the behavioral disorder, trichotillomania.(hair pulling) The dosage that seemed to work best for the trich was 7.5mg, although the study patients were given up to 10mg. I was on the medication for three months. At the end of the study I was weaned off the drug and almost immediately fell into a suicidal depression. I have never suffered from depression before in my life, and there were no other environmental factors to cause this. I can only conclude that the depression stemmed from my withdrawal from the Zyprexa. I am now on 20mg of Celexa to combat the depression - about which I am not happy, but better the Celexa than suicide! Have you or anyone else reading this heard of or experienced like symptoms? I am desperate for info, as the study dr. is treating my depression and denies that it could stem from ceasing the Zyprexa. If I can find anecdotal info that parallels my experience, she will have to take me seriously.

Thanks!

Rapunzel

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam » Rapunzel

Posted by Craig on August 28, 2000, at 1:15:02

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam » Sunnely, posted by Rapunzel on August 27, 2000, at 4:50:54

Just out of curiousity, why didn't the doctor let you resume taking Zyprexa instead of starting you on Celexa? If you begin taking Zyprexa again and your depression lifts, that ought to be enough proof.

*************************************************
> Sunnely,
> You sure seem to know a lot about this medication. Can you give me any info about this inquiry? I have recently been involved in a study of Zyprexa for the behavioral disorder, trichotillomania.(hair pulling) The dosage that seemed to work best for the trich was 7.5mg, although the study patients were given up to 10mg. I was on the medication for three months. At the end of the study I was weaned off the drug and almost immediately fell into a suicidal depression. I have never suffered from depression before in my life, and there were no other environmental factors to cause this. I can only conclude that the depression stemmed from my withdrawal from the Zyprexa. I am now on 20mg of Celexa to combat the depression - about which I am not happy, but better the Celexa than suicide! Have you or anyone else reading this heard of or experienced like symptoms? I am desperate for info, as the study dr. is treating my depression and denies that it could stem from ceasing the Zyprexa. If I can find anecdotal info that parallels my experience, she will have to take me seriously.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rapunzel

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by slachem on August 28, 2000, at 20:36:21

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam » Sunnely, posted by Rapunzel on August 27, 2000, at 4:50:54

> Sunnely,
> You sure seem to know a lot about this medication. Can you give me any info about this inquiry? I have recently been involved in a study of Zyprexa for the behavioral disorder, trichotillomania.(hair pulling) The dosage that seemed to work best for the trich was 7.5mg, although the study patients were given up to 10mg. I was on the medication for three months. At the end of the study I was weaned off the drug and almost immediately fell into a suicidal depression. I have never suffered from depression before in my life, and there were no other environmental factors to cause this. I can only conclude that the depression stemmed from my withdrawal from the Zyprexa. I am now on 20mg of Celexa to combat the depression - about which I am not happy, but better the Celexa than suicide! Have you or anyone else reading this heard of or experienced like symptoms? I am desperate for info, as the study dr. is treating my depression and denies that it could stem from ceasing the Zyprexa. If I can find anecdotal info that parallels my experience, she will have to take me seriously.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rapunzel


i am on 5 mg zyprexa and on the occasions when i
have tried to quit it has been pure hell. all i
wanted to do was cry and rehash old memories. to
remedy the situation only required me to resume the
zyprexa and in a couple of days things would be ok.

 

Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam

Posted by Rapunzel on September 1, 2000, at 6:48:29

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by slachem on August 28, 2000, at 20:36:21

Dear Craig and slachem,
Thanks for replying. I think the P-dr. running the study didn't put me back on the zyprexa for two reasons: a)it would mess up her study data (like having a suicidal patient wouldn't?) and b) since she doesn't believe it IS the zyprexa causing my depression, why even go there? I, myself, did not realize that what I was experiencing was withdrwal symptoms until I saw 20/20 last Friday and they did a piece on Paxil withdrawal. The symptoms weren't exactly like mine, but close enough that I could see a corrolation and determine that that is what I have been experiencing.
The Celexa did do the trick of bringing me sufficiently out of the depression to the extent that I am no longer suicidal. P-dr. is out of town until mid-Sept. and I want to submit my anecdotal evidence at my next appt. Also, I want to try to wean off the Celexa when she returns.
Slachem: for what reason are you taking Zyprexa?

 

Re: just started zyprexa

Posted by TK on October 11, 2000, at 22:36:35

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa and oxazepam, posted by Rapunzel on September 1, 2000, at 6:48:29

My MD started me on Zyprexa x5 days ago. I am also on Ativan daily as needed and also Wellbutrin 2x a day. I just came off Effexor and Seroquel following a suicidal incident. I am being treated for depression. I feel agitated and irritable then cry for no reason. Has anyone had this side effect w/Zyprexa? Has anyone had positive experiences w/this new drug?

 

Re: just started zyprexa

Posted by Rapunzel on October 13, 2000, at 23:29:13

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa , posted by TK on October 11, 2000, at 22:36:35

> My MD started me on Zyprexa x5 days ago. I am also on Ativan daily as needed and also Wellbutrin 2x a day. I just came off Effexor and Seroquel following a suicidal incident. I am being treated for depression. I feel agitated and irritable then cry for no reason. Has anyone had this side effect w/Zyprexa? Has anyone had positive experiences w/this new drug?

TK - Yes, your irritability and agitation could be from the zyprexa. I did not have any problems while I was on zyprexa, but one of my fellow study patients did. She described her symptoms as being like extremely severe PMS, but she did not find these side-effects too debilitating and did not drop out of the study. All the study patients were on 7.5mg.
As my original post stated, I was involved in a drug study of zyprexa's effects on trichotillomania, an illness not related to depression, psychosis, or schizophrenia - and my reactions may differ significantly from those who do have those illnesses. My problems with depression did not surface until I stopped zyprexa. While on the medication, the only significant side-effects I experienced were extreme drowsiness in the morning and weight gain, although I did have extreme agitation(mental and physical) if i missed a dose. I am now convinced that my depressive episode was related to the extremely short half-life of the drug and a too short weaning period. According to the dr. running the study, I am the ONLY person out of the millions to have taken this med to experience this complication. And my response is: and how many of those millions were taking it to combat trichotillomania?
I can't help wondering why your dr. prescribed zyprexa for depression. My study dr. says that it has a very slight function as an SSRI, but I have never heard of it being prescribed strictly for depression. Do you have other secondary problems that he/she might be trying to combat?
Good luck combating your depression. It is truly the worst thing I have ever experienced. Sorry this was so long, but I try to be thorough!

 

Re: just started zyprexa

Posted by JohnL on October 14, 2000, at 5:04:07

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa , posted by Rapunzel on October 13, 2000, at 23:29:13

> > My MD started me on Zyprexa x5 days ago. I am also on Ativan daily as needed and also Wellbutrin 2x a day. I just came off Effexor and Seroquel following a suicidal incident. I am being treated for depression. I feel agitated and irritable then cry for no reason. Has anyone had this side effect w/Zyprexa? Has anyone had positive experiences w/this new drug?

Rapunzel,
I'm sorry you are having this hard time. In my experience nothing is more disheartening than feeling bad to begin with, and then feeling worse with a new medication trial.

Doctors are so different. Some will take you immediately off a medication when it has a bad reaction right away at the start. Others will say to give it time. I don't know what your doctor will say. Mine never allowed a trial to continue if the initial reactions were bad. To him it merely indicated that the medication was not the right one to target whatever the underlying problem is. Or it may be that for some reason your body just rejects the molecule of that medication. A poor match biochemically. Certainly you could adjust to the medication, given time, and things could smooth out. That might, or might not, happen.

In your shoes, I have tried three different strategies:
1) Stop the medication immediately, get back to the doctor, decide on some other medication instead.
2) Stop the medication for about a week, plus or minus, until you stabilize again. Then retry the medication a second time. If your next doctor appointment is a month away or so, then you have time to try this. Sometimes I've found the body is much more accepting of a medication the second time around. But, if you responded poorly again, then you would know for a fact the medication is at fault. The 'challenge' test. Challenge the medication through stop and go trials. If there's a consistent pattern, then there's no doubt.
3) Continue the medication hoping for it to smooth out. You could lower the dose right away to 2.5mg to help. Just cut the tablet as needed with a knife for custom dosing.

I believe each patient has a unique underlying chemistry. To target that chemistry, medications will either be inferior or superior. Superior ones are characterized by good response fairly rapidly and few side effects. Inferior ones are characterized by poor, or no, response, and take longer to work, if they work at all, and are often accompanied by intolerable side effects or worsening of mood. This is because they are not correcting the problem directly, but rather causing a domino effect of chain reactions that may or may not eventually influence the problem.

There is a ton of anecdotal evidence right now tha Zyprexa can work well in treating depression, either alone or as an add-on. It has been approved for treating manic-depression. But the fact that you feel so bad so quickly after starting it just hints to me that it is all wrong for your unique chemistry.
John

 

Re: just started zyprexa » JohnL

Posted by TK on October 14, 2000, at 10:15:05

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa , posted by JohnL on October 14, 2000, at 5:04:07

Thanks to John and Rapunzel for the feedback. I just saw my MD yesterday and explained my probs w/mood swings/irritability and tiredness in the AM. He added Paxil 20mgs 1x a day and clorazepam(sp?) and also increased my zyprexa from 2.5mgs at nite to 5mgs to be taken around 6pm instead of bedtime. So I am now on the above as welll as the former wellbutrin 2x a day and Ativan as needed to sleep. Pardon the expression but this "sucks". I feel like a chem experiment.I trust my MD and I know he is trying but funny how his psych specialty is treating depression pharmaceutically. I'm ready to give up on the meds but he says that is what will "save me". Thanks for your info as this is all new to me and of course I just listen to my MD. T

 

Re: just started zyprexa

Posted by CremyWheat on June 2, 2001, at 22:09:05

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa » JohnL, posted by TK on October 14, 2000, at 10:15:05

My wife, who is a deaf mother of a two-year old daughter, recently engaged in a seriously depressional activity. When talking to the dr. , she told him she sometimes feels like she could kill herself. I never knew she was so depressed; she kept it well-hid, and I must have been wearing my "Husband Goggles". Long story short, they gave her 2.5 zyprexa and 15mg of remeron (one for depression, the other to keep her stable until the remeron kicks in good). She started last night.
My observations were that she slept much better last night, and she seems more "upbeat" today. Is this going to be the "norm", or will she have ups and downs with these med's? It seems as though Psych's don't like to discuss the possibilities and side effects of the med's they prescribe, do they? Maybe you guys can enlighten me, since you know first hand the effects.
Also, how strong are these in comparison to klonopin? I take 2mg of that every night for incurable insomnia. Is it in any way similar? Stronger / Weaker than the others? For anyone wondering about it's affect on Insomnia-- It works okay... I sleep fine, but I have to take it early in the evening, a few hours before bedtime, or I will NOT wake up the next morning for work!!! Once it kicks in, it goes until it's finished.
Please Help us?
Praise be to those who help those in need, and, if you need to talk to ANYONE, or need us to mention you in our prayers, feel free to holler. There's strength in numbers, and God DOES answer prayers!
I can be reached at cwheat01@bellsouth.net
Thanks,
CremyWheat

 

Re: just started zyprexa » CremyWheat

Posted by rapunzel31@juno.com on June 3, 2001, at 11:25:38

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa , posted by CremyWheat on June 2, 2001, at 22:09:05

Sorry Wheat, I don't know anything about the use of zyprexa for depression. The only thing I can tell you is that if your wife's dr wants to take her off of the zyprexa, he should give her a nice long weaning time. Zyprexa has a very short halflife, which means that it leaves the body quickly, which can cause biochemistry problems and withdrawal symptoms. That is what happened to me - never had depression before taking zyprexa and haven't had any since my recovery from my bad withdrawal from this drug.
Coincidentally, my son was only two when this happened to me, and we put him in nursery school during my illness. Not having the responsibility of his care 24 hrs a day was also a help in my recovery. Maybe a similar action would help your wife. It's not for nothing that they call this age the "terrible twos!" In my case it turned out quite well, as my son's teacher recognized that he has a learning disability and he is now being treated for it and will probably never suffer a learning delay because of our prompt action. If I hadn't gotten sick, we probably wouldn't have noticed his problems until he started kindergarten.
Good luck to you and your wife. Depression is the hardest thing I have ever gone through, and I wouldn't wish those feelings on my worst enemy. My prayers are with you.
Rapunzel

 

Re: just started zyprexa

Posted by froggy on June 5, 2001, at 5:12:04

In reply to Re: just started zyprexa » CremyWheat, posted by rapunzel31@juno.com on June 3, 2001, at 11:25:38

> Sorry Wheat, I don't know anything about the use of zyprexa for depression. The only thing I can tell you is that if your wife's dr wants to take her off of the zyprexa, he should give her a nice long weaning time. Zyprexa has a very short halflife, which means that it leaves the body quickly, which can cause biochemistry problems and withdrawal symptoms. That is what happened to me - never had depression before taking zyprexa and haven't had any since my recovery from my bad withdrawal from this drug.
> Coincidentally, my son was only two when this happened to me, and we put him in nursery school during my illness. Not having the responsibility of his care 24 hrs a day was also a help in my recovery. Maybe a similar action would help your wife. It's not for nothing that they call this age the "terrible twos!" In my case it turned out quite well, as my son's teacher recognized that he has a learning disability and he is now being treated for it and will probably never suffer a learning delay because of our prompt action. If I hadn't gotten sick, we probably wouldn't have noticed his problems until he started kindergarten.
> Good luck to you and your wife. Depression is the hardest thing I have ever gone through, and I wouldn't wish those feelings on my worst enemy. My prayers are with you.
> Rapunzel

> Wheat I have been on 5mg's Zyprexa for 10 months and the intent is to help ctrl mood swings. The doctor also put me on Remeron 30mg. These two together did wonders for me! I was able to sleep and had more of a desire for daily activities.
>However, I stopped taking the Remeron due to all the side effects. They have now put me on Effexor Xr. Now I do not sleep well at all. I too have chronic sleep problems.
Hope this helps.


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