Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 4525

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Loxapine for anxiety

Posted by Dawn on April 7, 1999, at 16:50:05

Pleeze help someone. My doctor won't perscribe anything 'addicting' for my panic attacks!!! I'm now takin Carbamazepin, Ranitidine and Celexa. But nothing for panic execept loxapine(because it's not addictive). Is there another non-addicting anti-anxiety besides Buspar that will calm me?
Thanks

 

Re: Loxapine for anxiety

Posted by Elizabeth on April 9, 1999, at 7:03:04

In reply to Loxapine for anxiety, posted by Dawn on April 7, 1999, at 16:50:05

> Pleeze help someone. My doctor won't perscribe anything 'addicting' for my panic attacks!!! I'm now takin Carbamazepin, Ranitidine and Celexa. But nothing for panic execept loxapine(because it's not addictive). Is there another non-addicting anti-anxiety besides Buspar that will calm me?
> Thanks

Hi there. I think this is very bad practice, refusing to prescribe "addicting" drugs (i.e., benzodiazepines) for spontaneous panic attacks (which is what I assume you're having), even when other things don't help.

That said, Celexa ought to be helping (the others probably won't). How much Celexa are you taking, and how long have you been taking it?

Some other things that might work, if you've given Celexa enough of a chance and it hasn't (if you're not in the U.S., you may have other options open to you beyond these):

high probability: another SSRI (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Luvox); a tricyclic (e.g., imipramine, nortriptyline, desipramine, clomipramine); a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (phenelzine, tranylcypromine); venlafaxine (Effexor)

moderate probability: nefazodone (Serzone), mirtazapine (Remeron)

worth a shot: gabapentin (Neurontin), valproate (Depakote), clonidine

Carbamazepine, loxapine, and buspirone aren't for panic disorder, and it's always offputting for me to hear of doctors attempting to use drugs like these for that indication.

 

Re: Loxapine for anxiety

Posted by Dawn on April 13, 1999, at 14:49:08

In reply to Re: Loxapine for anxiety, posted by Elizabeth on April 9, 1999, at 7:03:04

> > Pleeze help someone. My doctor won't perscribe anything 'addicting' for my panic attacks!!! I'm now takin Carbamazepin, Ranitidine and Celexa. But nothing for panic execept loxapine(because it's not addictive). Is there another non-addicting anti-anxiety besides Buspar that will calm me?
> > Thanks
>
> Hi there. I think this is very bad practice, refusing to prescribe "addicting" drugs (i.e., benzodiazepines) for spontaneous panic attacks (which is what I assume you're having), even when other things don't help.
>
> That said, Celexa ought to be helping (the others probably won't). How much Celexa are you taking, and how long have you been taking it?
>
> Some other things that might work, if you've given Celexa enough of a chance and it hasn't (if you're not in the U.S., you may have other options open to you beyond these):
>
> high probability: another SSRI (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Luvox); a tricyclic (e.g., imipramine, nortriptyline, desipramine, clomipramine); a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (phenelzine, tranylcypromine); venlafaxine (Effexor)
>
> moderate probability: nefazodone (Serzone), mirtazapine (Remeron)
>
> worth a shot: gabapentin (Neurontin), valproate (Depakote), clonidine
>
> Carbamazepine, loxapine, and buspirone aren't for panic disorder, and it's always offputting for me to hear of doctors attempting to use drugs like these for that indication.

> >
Thanks for commenting. The Loxapine seems to be working, I've also recently been perscribed kolonopin, and tegretol. Anyway, the mixture of them seem to be helping so far.
> Dawn

 

Re: Loxapine for anxiety

Posted by Elizabeth on April 14, 1999, at 6:20:11

In reply to Re: Loxapine for anxiety, posted by Dawn on April 13, 1999, at 14:49:08

Hi Dawn. Klonopin is a benzodiazepine and is indicated for panic disorder. It is "addictive" which just means that (assuming you don't abuse it!) you shouldn't stop taking it abruptly after having used it for a while (rebound anxiety and insomnia are likely, seizures rare but not impossible). Occasionally people have been known to abuse benzodiazepines, usually in combination with alcohol.

Glad to hear that you're doing better.

 

Re: Loxapine for anxiety

Posted by alan on April 18, 1999, at 2:40:38

In reply to Loxapine for anxiety, posted by Dawn on April 7, 1999, at 16:50:05

> Pleeze help someone. My doctor won't perscribe anything 'addicting' for my panic attacks!!! I'm now takin Carbamazepin, Ranitidine and Celexa. But nothing for panic execept loxapine(because it's not addictive). Is there another non-addicting anti-anxiety besides Buspar that will calm me?
> Thanks

Logic 101--The fallacy of ambiguity
"Addictive" is used to mean either 1) something that must be given up very slowly to avoid a fair amount of misery, or 2) a substance that makes some or many or most or all who try it once or twice or many times develop an irresistable (perhaps barring divine intervention from a Higher Power) compulsion to use it in ever increasing quantities while it destroys their lives and eventually kills them. The fallacy is to argue: 'This is addictive; therefore, if you use it, it will destroy your life'; the premise is true, using the first meaning; the fallacy occurs when inferring the conclusion using the second meaning.
(Of course, there are some dangerous substances out there, and clinicians need to use their heads when prescribing them; many clinicians find the use of intelligence tedious and resort to the fallacy.)


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