Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1543

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cylert

Posted by janeth on December 12, 1998, at 4:13:48

what are the addiction risks to cylert/pemoline for adults. I know there have been references to its dangers as potential source of abuse, but therein it ends. Are there cases of addiction, and if so, where are the links?

 

Re: cylert

Posted by alan on December 13, 1998, at 0:10:09

In reply to cylert, posted by janeth on December 12, 1998, at 4:13:48

> what are the addiction risks to cylert/pemoline for adults. I know there have been references to its dangers as potential source of abuse, but therein it ends. Are there cases of addiction, and if so, where are the links?

I think the probability that anyone would abuse cylert is quite small. Unlike other stimulants that are more likely to be abused, cylert can be prescribed over the phone without the rigmarole of triplicate prescriptions. I think it has little street value. The withdrawal effects are not much. Monkeys won't work to get it, and they seeem to usually know a fun drug when they try it. Cylert takes a long time to act, and it does so gradually; thus there is no 'rush' of pleasure to make us cry for more. On the other hand, I am sure that some people do potentially harmful things with it. It has some popularity among chess players as a 'smart drug' and I'd assume some of them use it unwisely. I think it is safe to say that it is very unlikely that you would use it in an addictive or abusive manner.
I have been using it for several months and my only objection is that I have not found it very effective at keeping me awake or focused or undepressed. It does some good tho.
Maybe you have ben seeing that stuff on the net put out by the kooks and gangsters of the health food mafia. (Not that there are no valuable products coming from that source)

 

Re: cylert

Posted by Elizabeth on December 13, 1998, at 19:22:17

In reply to Re: cylert, posted by alan on December 13, 1998, at 0:10:09

I've used Cylert. I don't have any other stimulants to compare it to, but it is supposed to be a relatively "smooth ride" compared to Ritalin or Dexedrine, because it is longer-lasting. I never felt any desire to take extra pills or anything like that. I took it for 6 months without needing to raise the dose. Be careful of withdrawal, though, if you have a history of depression and decide to stop taking Cylert after a while.

I think that whether you are liable to abuse meds probably depends on whether you have abused drugs in the past, especially drugs of the same sort (stimulants in this case), and also if you tend to be impulsive in general.

I did actually have a fellow student (I was in college at the time) ask me for some Cylert. (She didn't say what she wanted it for, but I assumed it was either to assist in pulling an all-nighter or for recreational use.) (I refused, BTW. :-)

The DEA's measures of abuse potential aren't terribly useful, but Cylert is in the same category (Schedule IV) as a lot of other drugs, including Valium (and the other benzos) and phentermine. (This is why it's more convenient to prescribe than Ritalin or Dexedrine.)

 

Re: cylert

Posted by matt on March 24, 1999, at 8:38:14

In reply to Re: cylert, posted by Elizabeth on December 13, 1998, at 19:22:17

> I've used Cylert. I don't have any other stimulants to compare it to, but it is supposed to be a relatively "smooth ride" compared to Ritalin or Dexedrine, because it is longer-lasting. I never felt any desire to take extra pills or anything like that. I took it for 6 months without needing to raise the dose. Be careful of withdrawal, though, if you have a history of depression and decide to stop taking Cylert after a while.
> I think that whether you are liable to abuse meds probably depends on whether you have abused drugs in the past, especially drugs of the same sort (stimulants in this case), and also if you tend to be impulsive in general.
> I did actually have a fellow student (I was in college at the time) ask me for some Cylert. (She didn't say what she wanted it for, but I assumed it was either to assist in pulling an all-nighter or for recreational use.) (I refused, BTW. :-)
> The DEA's measures of abuse potential aren't terribly useful, but Cylert is in the same category (Schedule IV) as a lot of other drugs, including Valium (and the other benzos) and phentermine. (This is why it's more convenient to prescribe than Ritalin or Dexedrine.)


im takin cylert now and i would like to know the side effects on it....

 

Re: cylert

Posted by saintjames on March 26, 1999, at 1:53:43

In reply to Re: cylert, posted by alan on December 13, 1998, at 0:10:09

> > what are the addiction risks to cylert/pemoline for adults. I know there have been references to its dangers as potential source of abuse, but therein it ends. Are there cases of addiction, and if so, where are the links?


James here....

I would be more conserned about the liver toxisity issues and the need for regular liver panels. It seems to be by far the least effective
stim. used in ADD and is favored only because it is Sch. IV and not Sch II, more restricted. To me this is a very poor way of deciding against the stims that clearly work.

james

 

gradual onset?

Posted by paul on March 26, 1999, at 11:19:54

In reply to Re: cylert, posted by saintjames on March 26, 1999, at 1:53:43

I have been taking Cylert for two days @ 75mg/day and notice immediate effects. In terms of drug abuse potential, perhaps it is the "methadone" of stimulants (not that I've ever been on methadone maintenance). This would be good for me because Ritalin can wear off very quickly sometimes, causing me to compulsively seek more.


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