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Posted by Paul on October 26, 1998, at 22:14:08
I pretty much experience all of the above to some extent. After consulting a counselor and a psychiatrist, who apparently see the ADD symptoms as my most salient ones, I have been prescribed Ritalin in addition to the Wellbutrin SR, which I have been taking for six months. This combination has caused severe headaches and irritable bowel syndrome and though the Ritalin helps, it tends to contribute to anxiety. Is it common to simultaneously take Ritalin and a benzodiazepine, to sort of "take the edge off?"
As regards the antidepressant, I am not too impressed with Wellbutrin. My unprofessional sort of theoretical hypothesis is that it doesn't deal enough with serotonin, which could account for the fact that it doesn't affect my emotions very much.
Does anyone have experience they'd like to share about any combinations of the above pharmaceuticals?
You can email me or just respond. Thanks in advance.
Posted by br on October 28, 1998, at 19:05:14
In reply to Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by Paul on October 26, 1998, at 22:14:08
> I pretty much experience all of the above to some extent. After consulting a counselor and a psychiatrist, who apparently see the ADD symptoms as my most salient ones, I have been prescribed Ritalin in addition to the Wellbutrin SR, which I have been taking for six months. This combination has caused severe headaches and irritable bowel syndrome and though the Ritalin helps, it tends to contribute to anxiety. Is it common to simultaneously take Ritalin and a benzodiazepine, to sort of "take the edge off?"
> As regards the antidepressant, I am not too impressed with Wellbutrin. My unprofessional sort of theoretical hypothesis is that it doesn't deal enough with serotonin, which could account for the fact that it doesn't affect my emotions very much.
> Does anyone have experience they'd like to share about any combinations of the above pharmaceuticals?
> You can email me or just respond. Thanks in advance.
I too have Adult ADD with a comorbidity of dysthymis. Originally I tried Ritalin and had little to no success just anxiety. I was also presciribed Prozac initially 24 them 40 and that was a disaster.I am now on Wellbutrin 300 mgs., Dexedrine 40 mgs, and Cytomel .050 mcgs. I am starting Adderall tomorrow.. Most adults that I know switch from Ritalin to Dexedrine or Adderall because the Ritalin does not do the job.
The Wellbutrin is fine and for me now that the dr added Cytomel as an augmenter. Cytomel is a synithetic thyroid and in addition to being an antidepressant potentiator is sometimes useful in the treatment of ADD even in the absence of hypothyroidism.Surf the web -- there is an endless wealth of info right here -- or write to me privately -- I h ave compiled a lengthy list of useful lists.
Good luck to you -- and remember the adjustment and fine tuning of your meds may take a while but hang in there!!!
BR
Posted by Paul Bain on November 1, 1998, at 10:32:08
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by br on October 28, 1998, at 19:05:14
> Surf the web -- there is an endless wealth of info right here -- or write to me privately -- I h ave compiled a lengthy list of useful lists.
> Good luck to you -- and remember the adjustment and fine tuning of your meds may take a while but hang in there!!!
> BRBR -- could you please send me your list of Web links, especially those dealing with ADD?? My email address is pbain@mason.gmu.edu. Thanks in advance.
-- Paul Bain
Posted by barbara on November 3, 1998, at 9:13:34
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, anxiety, and anger, posted by Paul Bain on November 1, 1998, at 10:32:08
> > Surf the web -- there is an endless wealth of info right here -- or write to me privately -- I h ave compiled a lengthy list of useful lists.
> > Good luck to you -- and remember the adjustment and fine tuning of your meds may take a while but hang in there!!!
> > BR
> BR -- could you please send me your list of Web links, especially those dealing with ADD?? My email address is pbain@mason.gmu.edu. Thanks in advance.
> -- Paul BainPaul:
I am happy to share this list of links with you -- and anyone else that would like to have them.
The web is invaluable to those of us with problems like ADD. There is a wealth of very good, useful information with credible professional sources. Education is the key to a patient's success. Only you know what you really feel like -- you are the one wearing the skin -- and, for me, I feel it is my responsibility to learn everything I can to assist my doctor in his efforts to help me.
Please let me know if any of you need this list of links. Don't forget Dr. Bob's Mental Health Links and his two other sites. They are very significant resources for useful (and I stress useful) information about the medications we take. If you dont read anything else read Dr. Bobs three other web sites.
And, although I have said it privately to you, Dr. Bob, I want to say publicly that if I had not had access to the information in your websites two months ago when I had a Prozac crisis, I think I would have lost it completely. The sites do not just inform, they also comfort. Thanks again. You do a marvelous job here.
Barbara
Posted by Erik on November 3, 1998, at 22:42:35
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by br on October 28, 1998, at 19:05:14
Hello! I would also like that list of helpful sites. If I'd bothered READING the other posts here before I posted my own (couldn't focus that long -- you know how it is) I would have noticed this gold mine -- other people who suffer from comorbid adult ADD, depression and anxiety. Anyone and everyone willing to write me some e-mail and tell me any information that helped them through this would be very, very helpful. Does ADD put people at some kind of risk for depression and anxiety? I've had it all my life. (ADD, and anxiety and depression at times). Anyway.
Erik
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 3, 1998, at 23:02:30
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by Erik on November 3, 1998, at 22:42:35
> Hello! I would also like that list of helpful
> sites.What if people just posted some sites here?
Bob
PS: Thanks, Barbara, for those nice comments! :-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 5, 1998, at 11:10:25
In reply to Just post sites here, posted by Dr. Bob on November 3, 1998, at 23:02:30
Hi,
Barbara sent me her links, and I added them to her
post above, at:/babble/19990301/msgs/1031.html
Bob
Posted by barbara on November 5, 1998, at 11:27:42
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by br on October 28, 1998, at 19:05:14
ABOUT THE LINK -- TO THE PENNSYLVANIA BAR ASSOC. -- JUST PROVES I HAVE ADD -- THE PA BAR ASSOC WILL BE VERY SURPRISED TO HEAR FROM ANYONE INQUIRING ABOUT ADD -- THIS IS ONE OF MY PROFESSIONAL LINKS - I AM A PARALEGAL IN MARYLAND AND DO WORK FOR PA LAWYERS ON THE WEB -- PLEASE DELETE THIS LINK -- SORRY
I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOY THE REST OF THE LIST -- AND REMEMBER TO FOLLOW THE LINKS IN THE LINKS -- IT IS SOMEWHAT LIKE CHASING A WORM -- BUT WELL WORTH THE EFFORT.
AND THANKS FOR LETTING ME SHARE THIS RESEARCH WITH YOU.
BARBARA
Posted by Barbara on November 10, 1998, at 8:00:05
In reply to Re: Another Excellent ADD Link, posted by Barbara on November 10, 1998, at 7:48:18
This morning I discovered a new website which can be found at http://borntoexplore.org/addstar.htm
This site is the beginning of a webring of sites regarding ADD, viewing ADD from an entirely new perspective. There are links discussing creativilty and originality found in ADD and with no mention of a neurological disorder -- this is another "reality" of ADD which I find very helpful because it helps me reframe my daily life in a positive light and not the light of failure and other daily screw-ups. We all know that "reality" -- late for an appointment and no gas in the car -- well -- it helps to reframe these daily adventures so that we can appreciate the unique qualities ADD has given us. And what we can give others because we are ADD and not in spite of being ADD.
Happy hunting!
Barbara
Posted by Cathy on March 23, 1999, at 22:25:10
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by Erik on November 3, 1998, at 22:42:35
> Hello! I would also like that list of helpful sites. If I'd bothered READING the other posts here before I posted my own (couldn't focus that long -- you know how it is) I would have noticed this gold mine -- other people who suffer from comorbid adult ADD, depression and anxiety. Anyone and everyone willing to write me some e-mail and tell me any information that helped them through this would be very, very helpful. Does ADD put people at some kind of risk for depression and anxiety? I've had it all my life. (ADD, and anxiety and depression at times). Anyway.
> ErikSigh; I've searched and searched and can find very little on the treatment of ADD with anxiety.
Especially where antidepressants aren't tolerated. HAS anyone tried using benzos and stimulants together?
Is there a site with comprehensive info on this particularly insidious combination of problems?
We're truly desperate; my husband has been taken off stimulants and put on Klonopin for the anxiety, and his inattention
has already caused some severe problems, including a close encounter with 220 volts. With the Klonopin
eliminating his natural fear reactions, I'm afraid he's going to have a terrible accident!
Posted by Cathy on March 24, 1999, at 4:59:55
In reply to Re: Comorbid adult ADD, depression, and anxiety, posted by Cathy on March 23, 1999, at 22:25:10
> > Hello! I would also like that list of >
> Sighbenzos and stimulants together?
> Is there a site with comprehensive info on this particularly insidious combination of problems?
> > eliminating his natural fear reactions, I'm afraid he's going to have a terrible accident!>>>Cathy,
I have same symptoms-Dr. has me on Klonopin and
Wellbutrin SR. I still occasionally take ritalin
but Wellbutrin seems pretty effective. 220volts
could be an eye-popping experience.
Regards,
Phil
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