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Re: Just hit me....** trig**

Posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:25:56

In reply to Re: Just hit me....** trig** » shadows721, posted by antigua on June 24, 2004, at 0:12:42

I'm sorry,but I haven't a clue what you are specifically referrring to. Help?

Thank you.

 

Re: Just hit me...

Posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:30:49

In reply to Re: Just hit me... » fires, posted by tinydancer on June 24, 2004, at 2:16:04

Did you read my links that discuss how memory works and why the diagnosis , even if in the DSM, is exraordinarily rare?

Also, I can't help how people chose to interpret my words. I know what my intentions are, and as you have hinted only I can be the judge of them. Or, do some here claim to be able to read minds? :)

Thank you

 

I'm curious » fires

Posted by gardenergirl on June 24, 2004, at 13:40:27

In reply to Re: Just hit me..., posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:30:49

> Did you read my links that discuss how memory works and why the diagnosis , even if in the DSM, is exraordinarily rare?
>
> Also, I can't help how people chose to interpret my words. I know what my intentions are, and as you have hinted only I can be the judge of them. Or, do some here claim to be able to read minds? :)
>

I think that part of the difficulty that appears in this thread is that many of us do not know what your intentions are. I am puzzled. It appears to me that you are quite invested in getting people on this site to change their beliefs about their experiences. Why might that be?

That approach, if that is your intention, is not typical of babble posters, although not unheard of. This site tends to be more supportive and expressive for those engaged in or interested in psychotherapy of all kinds. That does not mean that alternative beliefs are not welcome, but we all tend to be quite careful with these and do our best to frame them as our own issues/beliefs in order to be supportive and civil while expressing them. This tends to keep Babble a safe place to express whatever each poster needs to.

gg

Also, regarding your question to antigua, if you are wondering about the **trig** in the subject line, it is a warning to those who might be triggered to avoid the post. If you were asking something else, I'm sure antigua can answer.

 

Re: Just hit me....** trig** » fires

Posted by antigua on June 24, 2004, at 14:06:24

In reply to Re: Just hit me....** trig**, posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:25:56

I don't understand your question.
antigua

 

I am lost

Posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 15:55:00

In reply to Re: Just hit me....** trig**, posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:25:56

I thought the topic was DID/MPD. Hmmmmmm Is it just me???

 

Re: I am lost » shadows721

Posted by antigua on June 24, 2004, at 16:19:53

In reply to I am lost, posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 15:55:00

You aren't lost; that's what I was referring to.
antigua

 

Re: I'm curious

Posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 16:40:19

In reply to I'm curious » fires, posted by gardenergirl on June 24, 2004, at 13:40:27

As I stated several times my intention is not to try to convert DID patients away from their treatments, it is to alert potential new patients that it is considered by many to be a dubious Dx.

What more noble cause than that? Surely I haven't suggested that you or other DID patients not be allowed to post your ideas. Why shouldn't I be allowed to post mine (without always being questioned as to my intentions?).

Have I ever questioned your intentions? Maybe you aren't really a DID patient and are merely trying to trump up business for a DID therapist(s)? :) You see, the sword has 2 edges.


Thank you

 

Antigua

Posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 17:33:16

In reply to Re: I am lost » shadows721, posted by antigua on June 24, 2004, at 16:19:53

Thank you Antigua. I know I am having a rough time right now, so I was wondering. I feel back on track now. Whew!

 

Fires

Posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 18:15:50

In reply to Re: Just hit me....** trig**, posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 11:25:56

What is really bothering you? Please, put down the sword and open your heart. There are very loving and supportive people here. That's why I am here. I need Babble and it's Babblers. What do you need?

 

Re: I'm curious.....GardenerGirl

Posted by TofuEmmy on June 24, 2004, at 21:01:53

In reply to Re: I'm curious, posted by fires on June 24, 2004, at 16:40:19

I had no idea that you had a new dx! :-)

Love and kisses sweetness!!

 

LOL, must be a good diagnostician! (nm) » TofuEmmy

Posted by gardenergirl on June 24, 2004, at 22:28:19

In reply to Re: I'm curious.....GardenerGirl, posted by TofuEmmy on June 24, 2004, at 21:01:53

 

great post (nm) » shadows721

Posted by crushedout on June 24, 2004, at 23:33:03

In reply to Fires, posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 18:15:50

 

Re: thanks for keeping this civil, everyone (nm)

Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2004, at 6:21:44

In reply to Re: My apologies for speaking impulsively., posted by Dinah on June 23, 2004, at 20:53:23

 

Hiya, Crushed! » crushedout

Posted by Aphrodite on June 25, 2004, at 6:33:37

In reply to great post (nm) » shadows721, posted by crushedout on June 24, 2004, at 23:33:03

I've missed you. You OK?

 

This is the whole idea, right here. (nm) » shadows721

Posted by partlycloudy on June 25, 2004, at 6:59:22

In reply to Fires, posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 18:15:50

 

Also to Fires

Posted by TofuEmmy on June 25, 2004, at 8:17:18

In reply to Fires, posted by shadows721 on June 24, 2004, at 18:15:50

Fires - I totally loved Shadows post too. Is there something we can do to help you? Babble can be a very therapeutic environment, it's free, it's full of great people.

What can we do to be of service to YOU? Do you need a support network of caring people to help you? That's what we've each come here for and we've been oh so lucky to have found each other.

Em

 

Re: Also to Fires

Posted by fires on June 25, 2004, at 10:54:57

In reply to Also to Fires, posted by TofuEmmy on June 25, 2004, at 8:17:18

Thanks for the offer, but I don't need any support at this time. I saw my PDoc just yesterday, and she was so impressed by my lowered level of "anxiety" that she said no need for therapy!! I reduced my Effexor to 112.5 mg from 150 mg, and started Florinef for POTS a while back and my "anxiety" is way down. My PDoc won't be seeing me anymore because she has been appointed to Chief Resident.

I put "anxiety" in quotes because I call it intermittent hyper adrenalinism or "going vertical" (POTS= Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome", a type of dysautonomia which is often misdiagnosed as anxiety).

Thank you

 

Re: Hiya, Crushed! » Aphrodite

Posted by crushedout on June 25, 2004, at 14:23:30

In reply to Hiya, Crushed! » crushedout, posted by Aphrodite on June 25, 2004, at 6:33:37


Thanks, Aphrodite. Yeah, I'm OK. Been working a lot. It's nice to be missed, though. :)

(Would redirect to Social but I don't know how.)

 

Re: I found the missing link

Posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 19:06:17

In reply to Re: Also to Fires, posted by fires on June 25, 2004, at 10:54:57

This is THE link to MPD that provides the scientific links that someone had earlier requested:

http://www.csicop.org/si/9805/witch.html

Title: "Multiple Personality Disorder: Witchcraft Survies in the Twentieth Century"

Those who have stated that my posts were upsetting to them should avoid the above site. The evidence (or lack of I should say) is overwhelming.

Thank you

 

Re: I found the missing link

Posted by TofuEmmy on June 26, 2004, at 19:40:11

In reply to Re: I found the missing link, posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 19:06:17

Fires - If I am understanding your intentions correctly, you are trying to educate people about the "truth" regarding DID. My suggestion is to start higher up the food chain for the widest audience and best impact.

Perhaps if you engage in open debate with the practioners of the diagnosing and treating of the illness (which you believe does not exist), this would be more helpful. This would be as opposed to attempting "educate" people who have been diagnosed with this illness.

Try to imagine from their perspective what this post does to them? Can you imagine that it might cause them hurt or harm? Folks with DID already know that it is a highly debated dx. Each DID px here who has posted about their dx has already discussed this.

Perhaps this debate, education, and discussion should happen in an environment of Pdocs and T's, rather than patients? You know - go to the source of "the problem". The px didn't give themselves this dx.

Fires - we do welcome you to get all the support you need here! Everyone needs a shoulder to lean on. We are always available to listen to your needs.

Emmy


 

Re: I found the missing link

Posted by shadows721 on June 26, 2004, at 19:49:26

In reply to Re: I found the missing link, posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 19:06:17

In all your years of therapy, were you dx with MPD?

 

False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndro

Posted by shadows721 on June 26, 2004, at 20:44:32

In reply to Re: I found the missing link, posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 19:06:17

In regard to FMS vs. LPS, please read.

http://www.patiencepress.com/samples/4thIssue.html


Thanks.

 

Re: I found the missing link

Posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 20:46:48

In reply to Re: I found the missing link, posted by TofuEmmy on June 26, 2004, at 19:40:11

A couple of points:

I've received replies similar to yours when I've posted on other forums re: the dangers of alternative meds (esp. herbs and supplements). I feel that I'm providing reliable info. that can potentially save people a lot of time and money.

For those who choose to ignore my posts, for whatever reason, I wish them the best.

2nd point-- Why do you continue to offer me help for needs which I don't have? Does one have to be in need of help in order to post here?
I think not.

Thank you

 

Re: False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndro

Posted by fires on June 26, 2004, at 21:02:51

In reply to False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndro, posted by shadows721 on June 26, 2004, at 20:44:32

I don't care to use my time reading links written by people who compare scientists to Nazis and repeatedly use ad hominem attacks, then use the term: "big lie(s)." I read until it became evident what the author was trying to do.


The article reminds me of the reports that came out not too many years ago regarding autistic children who reportedly could communicate with some assistance. (Facilitated Communication). It was exposed as a fraud when the children started accusing parents, techers, police officers, etc.. of sexually abusing them. Turns out it was the facilitators who made up the stories; the autistic children couldn't communicate at all about such things, let alone type them with assistance.

Thank you

 

In honor of those of us with MPD

Posted by shadows721 on June 26, 2004, at 21:14:23

In reply to False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndro, posted by shadows721 on June 26, 2004, at 20:44:32

This comes from the book titled, "Multiple Personality Disorder from the Inside Out"

This comes from chapter one regarding diagnosis.

"The sweetest words I ever heard were, "No, you're not crazy...You're are a walking miracle!"-Vicki G.

"MPD is not just a made for TV story. It is real. It makes you hurt and feel lonely. It makes you cry. I wish more people would understand."-Patricia R.

"People need to know that MPD is not an illness, but an obsolete survival tool."-Tony B.

"Becoming multiple was the healthiest reaction we could have had to the abusive situation we were in."

I am thankful for all my internal helpers that helped me through Hellish experiences. For without them, I would not be here today.

Shadows.


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