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Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:09:04

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:06:51

Of course, maybe Dr. Bob would prefer to only retain the posters that others deem helpful.

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dinah

Posted by 8675309 on July 6, 2010, at 13:20:01

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dinah on July 6, 2010, at 13:06:51

I agree with you. The community feel of peers would not be enhanced ("mutual support")

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dinah, posted by 8675309 on July 6, 2010, at 13:20:01

Seems pretty unhelpful to rate posters' responses. For one thing, what's helpful at one moment, may not be helpful at another. I don't see the value in rating answers-- I mean if it's helpful, great--if not so helpful, why make a point of it?

I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone? As long as I'm civil and do my best to be helpful, it seems that I've done all I could do. Knowing it wasn't helpful might discourage me from trying again--with anyone, not just that particular poster.

I've seen sites that do this-- but I don't really get the point, even where it's just a translation or something.

Willful

 

Explained beautifully. I agree. (nm) » Willful

Posted by 10derHeart on July 6, 2010, at 17:00:47

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Willful on July 6, 2010, at 16:54:11

> I think it's rude in a community to tell people they aren't helpful. Or even that they weren't as helpful as Poster X.
>
> Dinah

> I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone?
>
> Willful

That could be the news from Lake Wobeher, where all the women are weak, all the men are bad looking, and all the posters are below average.

Bob

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob

Posted by 8675309 on July 8, 2010, at 5:37:49

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

Oh my... How helpful would U rate yourself on that comment, Dr. Bob?

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 6:07:12

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

Hey Dinah,

I bet almost all of your posts would get selected as best answer! You're one of the most helpful people on Babble!

Deneb

 

And so it begins

Posted by 8675309 on July 8, 2010, at 6:25:21

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 6:07:12

Before it begins :-)

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob

Posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

What?!!!

Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?

blech.

pc

 

What the heck

Posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 8:51:21

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45

> What?!!!
>
> Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?
>
> blech.
>
> pc

I'm having trouble on many levels with this one.

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob

Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 9:45:17

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

Hehehe! Lake Wobeher!

You're funny!

((((((((((((Dr. Bob)))))))))))))

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob

Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:19:44

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

I don't understand.

Went right over my head, apparently.

But I am tending to feel uncomfortable, and as if what I thought was a thoughtful discussion has now been dismissed or something

I know I am probably overreacting. Happens as a result of lack of understanding and information.

Can you explain your joke, Dr. Bob?

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob

Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:22:24

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

Lake Wobegon....Garrison Keillor??

 

Re: potential..i hope no one expected better. (nm) » Dr. Bob

Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 12:38:18

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » 10derHeart

Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:17:00

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 12:19:44

I don't understand either. lol

I just thought Lake Wobegon was a funny name. hehe

:)

Deneb

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:21:09

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » 10derHeart, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:17:00

Oops, I mean Wobeher lol

Wobegon, Wobeher, funny play on words

 

Re: What the heck » PartlyCloudy

Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:32:55

In reply to What the heck, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 8:51:21

> > What?!!!
> >
> > Can we report the administrator's own posts as uncivil here?
> >
> > blech.
> >
> > pc
>
> I'm having trouble on many levels with this one.

I certainly can understand that you're having trouble with this post.

It is the fox in the chicken house now. Unheard of on a support forum of any kind and certainly not on a mental health support site that is owned and administrated by an M.D.

I'm very sorry, NFP..........xoxoxoxoMissSafeLove
>

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » PartlyCloudy

Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:34:58

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Dr. Bob, posted by PartlyCloudy on July 8, 2010, at 7:09:45

As Bob Dylan sang "we all gotta serve somebody".......who could this incivility be reported to? I have my thinking cap on.......

 

Re: idea for Babble... need clowns + ringmaster? (nm) » Dr. Bob

Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 13:41:34

In reply to Re: I have an idea for Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on July 3, 2010, at 2:25:00

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Deneb

Posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 14:46:39

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 13:21:09

>Wobegon, Wobeher, funny play on words

Depends on context, timing, appropriateness, I suppose.

I just think Dr. Bob might ought to explain his cryptic postings, especially when they are possibly being misunderstood....or in my case, not understood at all.

 

Re: potential for hurt » Dr. Bob

Posted by jade k on July 8, 2010, at 15:06:34

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help, posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2010, at 4:10:54

> > I think it's rude in a community to tell people they aren't helpful. Or even that they weren't as helpful as Poster X.
> >
> > Dinah
>
> > I guess it has a lot of potential to hurt people's feelings imo without much usefulness to those whose posts were somehow less helpful. I mean, how does it help me to know that my thoughts on an issue weren't helpful to someone?
> >
> > Willful
>
> That could be the news from Lake Wobeher, where all the women are weak, all the men are bad looking, and all the posters are below average.
>
> Bob


Wikipedia:

The Lake Wobegon effect

Main article: Illusory superiority
The characterization of the fictional location, where "all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average," has been used to describe a real and pervasive human tendency to overestimate ones achievements and capabilities in relation to others.

The Lake Wobegon effect, where all or nearly all of a group claim to be above average, has been observed among drivers, CEOs, stock market analysts, college students, parents, and state education officials, among others.

Dr. Bob?

~Jade


 

Re: potential2hurt, potentia 2help...i'm w/you.... (nm) » 10derHeart

Posted by fayeroe on July 8, 2010, at 15:07:12

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 14:46:39

 

Re: potential for hurt, potential to help

Posted by 8675309 on July 8, 2010, at 15:09:02

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, potential to help » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on July 8, 2010, at 14:46:39

If there was an attempt at ?humor? or candor, it has fallen short of its mark. AND just because a star pupil suggests something does not meam the otjher pupils deserve dismissiveness if there is disagreement.

 

Re: potential for hurt

Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 15:39:34

In reply to Re: potential for hurt » Dr. Bob, posted by jade k on July 8, 2010, at 15:06:34

Oh, I think I get it now!

Dr. Bob kind of made fun of us, but in a good way that compliments us. I think he is basically saying that instead of Babblers overestimating their abilities like regular people, we underestimate ourselves (when everyone assumes their posts will not be selected as helpful).

I think Dr. Bob is saying we are more helpful than we think, and our answers are more valuable than we assume.

Dr. Bob is just saying that Babblers should see all the good they do and try not to focus on all the negatives. It's like CBT really, we need to see ourselves in our true light. Normal people see themselves as better than others and we see ourselves as worse, but neither are right.

 

Re: potential for hurt » Deneb

Posted by Dinah on July 8, 2010, at 15:52:07

In reply to Re: potential for hurt, posted by Deneb on July 8, 2010, at 15:39:34

And this would help that how? No matter how it's structured, I see more people feeling bad than good.


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