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Re: Effexor XR Cocaine use ! (RESPONSE)

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 18, 2004, at 22:26:49

In reply to Re: Effexor XR Cocaine use ! (RESPONSE), posted by PsychoSage on February 18, 2004, at 21:10:24

Yes! I agree!


> > > > Do NOT use cocaine. Effexor is the best antidepressant for people suffering from cocaine abuse, even a year after stopping it your brain wont be the same.
> > > > I'm a recovering addict to cocaine, meth, benzos, alcohol, ecstasy, basically everything. Do NOT use drugs if not prescribed to you. Oh yeah, you could have a seizure/stroke or worse mixing cocaine with an activating antidepressant like Effexor
>
>
> Whoever is taking illicit drugs on Effexor, be careful. I have already reported my "overdoses" with a little bit of meth while being on Effexor. It happened twice in two weeks. I was in the ER twice. I had purple skin [94F temp- not sure why i did not overheat each time], and my heart was about to burst. each time IV benzos saved my life. The second time involved nitroglycerin and lots of morphine shots for my chest pain, and i was hooked up to heart monitors over night. My doctor at detox the following week who also taught at my university told me to don't be on the AD for a week before I start using, so I don't DIE!
>
> I was 21 at the time. It was so sad because a Doctor from student health came to see me when I was admitted overnight. It was purely out of sympathy. I was young and stupid. She had overheard that I was there, and she had not treated me before or known me. It's a sad thing to screw yourself over while on drugs that are supposed to save your life.
>
> I haven't even read this post completely or this thread because it is very very simple. Don't take E, crystal or coke while on any of those psychiatric drugs. What is the point anyways?? Why stay on the ADs or whatever other psych drug if you are using other psychoactive drugs that hinder your treatment or actually downright nullify it. I can tell you that benzos and the emergency room save lives. I am not going to tell you to take them without a script as protection, but it's been known to be done.
>
> I am not the only idiot ever!!
>
> SSRIs and E or meth do not get along either.
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Re: Insomnia and depression

Posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:01:58

In reply to Insomnia and depression, posted by Richie on February 25, 2001, at 2:46:53

Hi,
Stay clear of the Ambian, it is addicting. I took it for a week, it was horrible. I then got a new Dr. and took Trazadone, which definitly worked. I was on it for about 6 months, and gradually weened my self off. It was prescibed to help with my sleep and I only took it at night. I also went through Zoloft and Wellbutrin, till I was prescibed Effexor which cured my anxiety and depression, along with pyschotherapy. I am still on Effexor, and see my therapist once a month.

 

Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??

Posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:07:26

In reply to Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??, posted by lyra31 on February 25, 2001, at 16:28:47

I too gained weight on Effexor, about 30 pounds. I think part of it is the fact that when one feels good they eat, I also was not as anxious about body image/etc.

What has helped is sticking to a low carb diet, less carbs, less cravings. I too was hungry all the time. Of course exercise is key, I have lost some of the weight.

 

Re: Insomnia and depression

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 19, 2004, at 3:08:14

In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression, posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:01:58

Good for you. Ambien made me psychotic, popping up to 10x 10mg at night. For a week I was extremely paranoid and major threatening hallucinations. Im on Effexor and Trazadone now, still cant sleep. Life is very tough for me. I am looking forward to when my body readjusts from 11 yrs of pot smoking, and many years of booze , meth, ecstasy (400 approx. in 1 yr), cocaine (sometimes 1-4 eightballs a night). I've been clean and I am optimistic of staying that way. Take Care!


> Hi,
> Stay clear of the Ambian, it is addicting. I took it for a week, it was horrible. I then got a new Dr. and took Trazadone, which definitly worked. I was on it for about 6 months, and gradually weened my self off. It was prescibed to help with my sleep and I only took it at night. I also went through Zoloft and Wellbutrin, till I was prescibed Effexor which cured my anxiety and depression, along with pyschotherapy. I am still on Effexor, and see my therapist once a month.

 

Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 19, 2004, at 3:13:07

In reply to Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??, posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:07:26

Effexor can cause some people to gain/lose weight. Many people do not. Get a good exercise routine where u can at least walk at a quick pace for 30min or 3 miles depending if using a treadmill,bike, elliptical. Eat frequently (good food).
Good luck!

> I too gained weight on Effexor, about 30 pounds. I think part of it is the fact that when one feels good they eat, I also was not as anxious about body image/etc.
>
> What has helped is sticking to a low carb diet, less carbs, less cravings. I too was hungry all the time. Of course exercise is key, I have lost some of the weight.

 

Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ?? 4peace

Posted by Dirtylowdown4 on February 19, 2004, at 7:49:06

In reply to Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??, posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:07:26

I have managed to lose weight since taking Effexor although the weight loss was intentional. I find that since taking Effexor my appetite has increased dramatically and if not for calorie counting and changing my eating habits I would have ballooned up. Instead of eating junk food snacks now I eat fruit several times a day. I am vain about my appearance so I have always been able to control my weight although it has not been easy. There is no substitute for will power. Sorry if anyone thinks I'm oversimplifying with this last comment.

 

Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??

Posted by Judie on February 19, 2004, at 7:54:28

In reply to Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??, posted by 4peace on February 19, 2004, at 3:07:26


I gained about 20 pounds on effexor. Exercise is definitely key... burns calories AND lifts your spirit. I'm working on getting the weight off, too... good luck to you!

> I too gained weight on Effexor, about 30 pounds. I think part of it is the fact that when one feels good they eat, I also was not as anxious about body image/etc.
>
> What has helped is sticking to a low carb diet, less carbs, less cravings. I too was hungry all the time. Of course exercise is key, I have lost some of the weight.

 

Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?

Posted by crzyinlove on February 19, 2004, at 8:18:50

In reply to Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?, posted by chase9 on February 12, 2004, at 18:47:02

I have a new question - did this medication make anyone think they were losing their mind. I swear it has made me act completely irrational and bizarre. I think I am in love with someone other than my spouse and am about ready to ruin my marriage and this all started about 3 months after I started taking effexor. Also my friends think it is not helping and that I am always sad or strange. But, now that I have read about the withdrawal symptoms I am petrified to go off it.

 

Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?

Posted by PoohBear on February 19, 2004, at 10:12:41

In reply to Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?, posted by crzyinlove on February 19, 2004, at 8:18:50

You should talk to your pDoc; this may not be the medication for you if you're still sad after three months of treatment. Also, it looks like you may need some talk therapy to work out some other issues. An affair will NOT help your situation, but only add to your guilt, etc.

Prozac can help you get off Effexor. You may also be bipolar. If so, an antidepressant can cause an agrivation of manic-depressive cycles. If your doctor is not open to invesitgating new lines of thinking, you need a new doctor.

Good luck and best wishes!

Tony

> I have a new question - did this medication make anyone think they were losing their mind. I swear it has made me act completely irrational and bizarre. I think I am in love with someone other than my spouse and am about ready to ruin my marriage and this all started about 3 months after I started taking effexor. Also my friends think it is not helping and that I am always sad or strange. But, now that I have read about the withdrawal symptoms I am petrified to go off it.

 

Re: Glad to be OFF EFFEXOR!! KFRAN

Posted by djsarah on February 19, 2004, at 19:29:44

In reply to Re: Glad to be OFF EFFEXOR!!, posted by KFRAN on January 29, 2004, at 15:17:32

in response to K-FRAN -

In terms of the drug working, I found that Effexor was quite effective and it really helped me with few side effects. Before panicking about what you read here, be thankful if the drug is helping you and try to become aware of the precautions you should be taking. Once you are ready to withdraw, read a lot of different stuff on it so that you can learn from others' mistakes and successes, make sure you are aware of what can happen and how to make withdrawal least painful.

 

Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ??

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 19, 2004, at 21:34:38

In reply to Re: Has ANYBODY out there lost their Effexor weight ?? 4peace, posted by Dirtylowdown4 on February 19, 2004, at 7:49:06

Good for you. Antipsychotic drugs are infamous for gaining weight also, and it is recommended that people on these meds exercise daily and monitor what they eat. I am on Effexor, but I manage to do 30min cardio and 30-60min. on heavy weights, so Im always craving food, but I eat unfried chicken, fish, turkey, and an occasional steak or burger. I Eat every 2-3 hours (i.e Rice, chicken, veggies)


> I have managed to lose weight since taking Effexor although the weight loss was intentional. I find that since taking Effexor my appetite has increased dramatically and if not for calorie counting and changing my eating habits I would have ballooned up. Instead of eating junk food snacks now I eat fruit several times a day. I am vain about my appearance so I have always been able to control my weight although it has not been easy. There is no substitute for will power. Sorry if anyone thinks I'm oversimplifying with this last comment.

 

Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 19, 2004, at 21:38:36

In reply to Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?, posted by crzyinlove on February 19, 2004, at 8:18:50

Do you drink or do drugs? Speed driving, go on spending sprees or have irritability? Just a though, maybe the effexor is putting you into a manic state, or possibly you have bipolar? Either way, you need to let your doc know exactly what is going on, and be specific, maybe even work on writing a list of things until your appointment comes.

> I have a new question - did this medication make anyone think they were losing their mind. I swear it has made me act completely irrational and bizarre. I think I am in love with someone other than my spouse and am about ready to ruin my marriage and this all started about 3 months after I started taking effexor. Also my friends think it is not helping and that I am always sad or strange. But, now that I have read about the withdrawal symptoms I am petrified to go off it.

 

Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 19, 2004, at 21:40:29

In reply to Re: Anyone NOT had trouble getting off this med?, posted by PoohBear on February 19, 2004, at 10:12:41

Great advice. I just gave similar advice as well :P

> You should talk to your pDoc; this may not be the medication for you if you're still sad after three months of treatment. Also, it looks like you may need some talk therapy to work out some other issues. An affair will NOT help your situation, but only add to your guilt, etc.
>
> Prozac can help you get off Effexor. You may also be bipolar. If so, an antidepressant can cause an agrivation of manic-depressive cycles. If your doctor is not open to invesitgating new lines of thinking, you need a new doctor.
>
> Good luck and best wishes!
>
> Tony
>
> > I have a new question - did this medication make anyone think they were losing their mind. I swear it has made me act completely irrational and bizarre. I think I am in love with someone other than my spouse and am about ready to ruin my marriage and this all started about 3 months after I started taking effexor. Also my friends think it is not helping and that I am always sad or strange. But, now that I have read about the withdrawal symptoms I am petrified to go off it.
>
>

 

Re: Effexor XR

Posted by ian hills on February 20, 2004, at 8:48:30

In reply to Re: Effexor XR, posted by Jackie Jones on May 31, 2000, at 13:45:25

hi just found this page
I have been taking efexor-xr 300mg twice aday now for 5 years and im hooked can't go aday with out them if i do i feel like im stoned out of my head till i take my next pills
my sleeping patten is wild i fall to sleep any time any were in the day but not much at night
my nerves are shot and my depression is bad and i dont like myself much
I told my GP and he said im just feeling sorry for myself is this right.

 

Re: Effexor XR ian hills

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 20, 2004, at 9:06:45

In reply to Re: Effexor XR, posted by ian hills on February 20, 2004, at 8:48:30

Grandpas are old fashioned and dont understand these situations. If u r depressed that will cause you to dislike yourself. I avg. 5 hours of sleep a week, not even good sleep. Im on effexor also. Report this to your doc. Maybe dropping down 37.5mg per month would be gradual enough. Good luck!
P.S.I feel so gross, and schizophrenic from not sleeping. I see the clock at 11am after being up, and sometimes if i sleep, it seems like 1 minute of running around the world, but i look at clock and it says 12:00-1:00 otherwise Id never know. I thought I was up for weeks, without a min of sleep.


> hi just found this page
> I have been taking efexor-xr 300mg twice aday now for 5 years and im hooked can't go aday with out them if i do i feel like im stoned out of my head till i take my next pills
> my sleeping patten is wild i fall to sleep any time any were in the day but not much at night
> my nerves are shot and my depression is bad and i dont like myself much
> I told my GP and he said im just feeling sorry for myself is this right.

 

Re: Effexor XR

Posted by djsarah on February 20, 2004, at 10:25:51

In reply to Re: Effexor XR, posted by ian hills on February 20, 2004, at 8:48:30

your GP is wrong. you are not just 'feeling sorry for yourself' (if he says this i'm surprised he prescribed anything for depression in the first place!! isn't that just feeling sorry for yourself then, doc?) i think after a while the good effects of effexor go away, and since you're on such a high dosage i doubt it'll help to go up. it may help to go down actually, i decreased by 75mg and after the initial w/d symptoms i feel okay. i was pretty depressed on the 225 so i figure i might as well just be off. anyway please look over the posts on this page and consider finding a new doctor who is more sympathetic to your needs!!!

 

Re: hypomania Minnie-Haha

Posted by PsychoSage on February 20, 2004, at 10:46:09

In reply to Re: hypomania, posted by Minnie-Haha on February 16, 2004, at 15:52:39

> > You can also have mixed states where you're depressed and agitated. depression with GAD is often confused with BP2 because they can look the same...in reality it's not depression with anxiety..it's a mixed state of BP...depression with an agitated or hyperaroused state. I believe my pdoc said that BP2 is mostly depression with some hypomania. <
>
> Your post kind of ran together here. Have you read that depression with GAD can be misdiagnosed as BP2? If so, can you point me toward your source? This is the aregument I have been having with my current pdoc. That maybe my original DX was wrong, but I can't get her to budge.
>

It's the other way around. BP2 is what is missed for years or forever with many. Depression with GAD is easy to point to. Excess energy and disproportionate positive emotions that are part of a cycle are confused for normal states or simply unaddressed because the patient doesn't clue the doctor in.

 

Re: Effexor XR ian hills

Posted by Judie on February 20, 2004, at 12:08:30

In reply to Re: Effexor XR, posted by ian hills on February 20, 2004, at 8:48:30


NO THAT'S NOT RIGHT!! Just read for a while on these posts and you'll figure that out pretty quick. Please find yourself a new doctor... the one you've got is obviously not too familiar with the effects of this drug. Hang in there... you can find GOOD help. You do not have to feel this way any more.

> hi just found this page
> I have been taking efexor-xr 300mg twice aday now for 5 years and im hooked can't go aday with out them if i do i feel like im stoned out of my head till i take my next pills
> my sleeping patten is wild i fall to sleep any time any were in the day but not much at night
> my nerves are shot and my depression is bad and i dont like myself much
> I told my GP and he said im just feeling sorry for myself is this right.

 

Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah

Posted by lacey2001 on February 22, 2004, at 19:33:16

In reply to Re: Going off of Effexor: Attn 4peace, posted by jahmah on February 18, 2004, at 10:22:35

Do I just go to a place like GNC and ask for empty gell caps. I looked online to see if they have them available but couldn't find anything.
I am down to 37.5 mg but will want to divide the capsules up and pour loose meds into smaller portions. Anyone know where to look for these? and what health stores have them available?

Tanya


> >
> > Hi,Be prepared for a ride. I think the caps are the best. you can go to a health food store and get your own empty gell caps and start to devide your caps up.Thats what I did . I went from 150 and devided them into four caps. Its been5 days now and its been like the >

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah lacey2001

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 22, 2004, at 19:42:31

In reply to Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah, posted by lacey2001 on February 22, 2004, at 19:33:16

Just because they are gelcaps, doesn't mean they are time-released gelcaps. I totally recommend contacting your doctor. If your effexor is 37.5 Effexor XR, leave it as is, if it isnt the XR, cut the pill in half and take half if taking 37.5 total. Please Do NOT cut a gelcap. If u do, you will probably end up OD if on XR.

> Do I just go to a place like GNC and ask for empty gell caps. I looked online to see if they have them available but couldn't find anything.
> I am down to 37.5 mg but will want to divide the capsules up and pour loose meds into smaller portions. Anyone know where to look for these? and what health stores have them available?
>
> Tanya
>
>
> > >
> > > Hi,Be prepared for a ride. I think the caps are the best. you can go to a health food store and get your own empty gell caps and start to devide your caps up.Thats what I did . I went from 150 and devided them into four caps. Its been5 days now and its been like the >
>
>

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah

Posted by EFFEXED on February 23, 2004, at 16:23:17

In reply to Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah, posted by lacey2001 on February 22, 2004, at 19:33:16

go to sunharvest thay have the empty gel caps in the vitamin section good luck with the withdraw I want to go off of this med to it dose nothing for me anymore I am on 75 for 2 months now and feel worse now than well I DONT feel thats the problem and no sex drive at all thats the reason I went to see my dr in the first place and now I realy do feel depressed because I thought this med would bring back the sex drive but no such luck my fianci or what ever have had sex maybe 10 times over a 5 yr period so hope you succed in your quest to get off so do I HA HA
any way sorry to go on and on
GOOD LUCK
CINDY

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah

Posted by lacey2001 on February 23, 2004, at 16:50:30

In reply to Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah, posted by EFFEXED on February 23, 2004, at 16:23:17

One of my problems has always been low sex drive. Even before coming on this med. I wish there was more help out there for women and not just a testostorone cream. It is a big issue with my hubby and I all the time it seems.
Anyway I hope to be off soon. I have three more of 37.5 mg left and we will see. I hear about Wellbutrin all the time. Maybe I will give that a go after if I have a pregnancy.
I thought that if I do have withdrawls, I could
make up a few a 17 mg pill for a few days. Who knows? It is good to know there is that option though. Thanks for the advice from some of you.

Tanya


> go to sunharvest thay have the empty gel caps in the vitamin section good luck with the withdraw I want to go off of this med to it dose nothing for me anymore I am on 75 for 2 months now and feel worse now than well I DONT feel thats the problem and no sex drive at all thats the reason I went to see my dr in the first place and now I realy do feel depressed because I thought this med would bring back the sex drive but no such luck my fianci or what ever have had sex maybe 10 times over a 5 yr period so hope you succed in your quest to get off so do I HA HA
> any way sorry to go on and on
> GOOD LUCK
> CINDY

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah lacey2001

Posted by dms777smd on February 23, 2004, at 18:22:01

In reply to Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah, posted by lacey2001 on February 22, 2004, at 19:33:16

> Do I just go to a place like GNC and ask for empty gell caps. I looked online to see if they have them available but couldn't find anything.
> I am down to 37.5 mg but will want to divide the capsules up and pour loose meds into smaller portions. Anyone know where to look for these? and what health stores have them available?
>
> Tanya
>
>
> > >
> > > Hi,Be prepared for a ride. I think the caps are the best. you can go to a health food store and get your own empty gell caps and start to devide your caps up.Thats what I did . I went from 150 and devided them into four caps. Its been5 days now and its been like the >
>
>
Yea you could probably get the empty caps at a lot of health stores but if you can't find them try a head shop.They sell a lot of stuff having to do with drugs,and I know all the ones around me sell empty caps.Good luck,,I know these stupid drugs are hard to get off of.

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah EFFEXED

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 23, 2004, at 19:34:57

In reply to Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah, posted by EFFEXED on February 23, 2004, at 16:23:17

I wouldnt try gelcaps because usualy they are not "Time Released", and lack FDA approval. If you have been having sexual problems w/ the fiance, see urologist to see if its due to meds, depression, anxiety, or if your testosterone is low. Either way he/she will most likely give you a sample pack of Levitra, Cialis, or Viagra to combat these intimacy issues. Good luck! And, don't stress out thinking if you can't perform right now, that you would lose the fiance. If its love, it will not happen, if it did ever happen, then they are not right for u.

 

Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah dms777smd

Posted by Doctor Feel Good on February 23, 2004, at 19:43:23

In reply to Re: Down to 37.5 need empty gell cap: Attn Jahmah lacey2001, posted by dms777smd on February 23, 2004, at 18:22:01

Most empty gellcaps are not Sustained Release, or FDA approved even if they are. Do not use the gellcaps if u intend on having a sustained release. Also do not cut effexor gellcaps. I believe u are referring to the regular ones though?

> > Do I just go to a place like GNC and ask for empty gell caps. I looked online to see if they have them available but couldn't find anything.
> > I am down to 37.5 mg but will want to divide the capsules up and pour loose meds into smaller portions. Anyone know where to look for these? and what health stores have them available?
> >
> > Tanya
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,Be prepared for a ride. I think the caps are the best. you can go to a health food store and get your own empty gell caps and start to devide your caps up.Thats what I did . I went from 150 and devided them into four caps. Its been5 days now and its been like the >
> >
> >
> Yea you could probably get the empty caps at a lot of health stores but if you can't find them try a head shop.They sell a lot of stuff having to do with drugs,and I know all the ones around me sell empty caps.Good luck,,I know these stupid drugs are hard to get off of.
>


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