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Re: new members » Dinah

Posted by vwoolf on September 1, 2010, at 15:23:22

In reply to Re: new members » vwoolf, posted by Dinah on September 1, 2010, at 12:47:31

> That would be true in a therapy group, which wouldn't be visible to others or googleable, and would have a skilled group leader. Dr. Bob has always been clear that Babble isn't therapy, and I think he'd have to make some structural changes if he were to change that point of view.

The fishbowl is a group technique that has a closed inner group (fish) and an outer observing group, and so is visible. Sometimes the participants switch roles and the observers become the fish, and vice versa.

I'm not sure that Babble is not therapy, although it is so in a very low-key form. I think it is the boundaries (blocks) that make it so - which Babblers find as frustrating as the boundaries in more conventional therapy. And maybe that is one of the things that distinguishes Babble from other groups.

> Babble, to me, is a community, and this would be more like having a party visible to all but to which only some are allowed to participate.

But all would be part, just in different capacities - at least, that is how I imagine it. I have no idea what Dr Bob had in mind.
It might be something completely different.

> It might not be a bad idea to have subgroups for special interests, with signing up required for that. The problem is that Dr. Bob's plan didn't allow people to sign up based on interest only. He was determined, or so it seemed to me, that it would involve a limit on membership.

I think that is the nature of the fishbowl.

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> You might be more able to see the therapeutic benefits to a closed group because we come from different therapeutic backgrounds. But I think we'd agree on the importance of having a skilled leader providing guidance if a group designed to bring up unconscious processes?

I'm not sure what therapeutic background you assume I am representing here. I wasn't aware that I was representing any. I didn't think what I was saying fitted into any paradigm, but maybe I am just not thinking clearly enough. It felt as if I was just playing with ideas, and trying to be open to possibilities rather than rejecting a priori any idea of change.

But now that you mention it, and I hadn't thought it through before, it would need a skilled leader who could intervene to support more fragile participants where necessary, and guide the process in some way, and keep the boundaries. I'm not sure that Dr Bob would want to take on that sort of role.....

 

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