Posted by Nadezda on November 11, 2008, at 14:15:27
In reply to Re: :-(, posted by Deneb on November 9, 2008, at 23:14:02
You seem to be misunderstanding, though, Deneb. The idea is not that the thought, "I want to kill myself" is bad. It's that you aren't really having that thought. When you have a certain feeling, you define it as the feeling, "I want to...." But what we're saying is that that phrase "I want to..." stands for another *real* thought that you are having-- but don't know how to express.
Racer and I are suggesting that a better, that is, more accurate, way of ACTUALLY EXPRESSING the real thought that you're having is: "I'm feeling overwhelmed at the moment by bad feelings and I want very much to feel better."
So what we're saying, again, is that you actually are substituting an idea that doesn't really describe the feeling well, for a real thought about overwhelming feelings.
At least, that's certain how I understand what Racer is saying. And it definitely is what I"m saying. I just don't think you do, in fact, want to kill yourself when you say, that '"I want to...."-- so that phrase doesn't really explain what you're thinking.
Do you see the difference?
Nadezda
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