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Re: Actually » gabbi~1

Posted by jay on April 4, 2006, at 18:21:04

In reply to Re: Actually » jay, posted by gabbi~1 on April 4, 2006, at 16:14:05

> Huh? Sorry...I've got a horrible memory. Anyways, I don't know about you, but I want to remove my "DNP" to you. I've personally got no problem in the world with your posts.
> >
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> Okay, that sounds fair enough, I'll do the same, and we'll see how it goes : )
>

Very cool . :) I've had some rough times on the board, and many caused by my cocky attitude while in a state of hypomania. It's to easy for me to sit down, in such a state, and write little one line answers.

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> > And about the religion...you might ask how could one be an Agnostic Humanist? I just figure someone can be a part of everything. Maybe it makes no sense...but that's just me.
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> Well, yeah, but as the Catholic religion is firmly based on their belief in the ONE TRUE GOD it's hard for me to see how one can also consider god to be unknowable.
> I personally liked this pope, as far as popes go, and I loved that he wanted to try on Bono's sunglasses, and Bono gave them to him.
> That was such a great story.
> But no way am I catholic..

Yeah, I read about that Bono story too. I used to have very little respect for the pope. I was baptised and confirmed Catholic. But after highschool, College and university tend to bring new angles on things out because you discover so many wonderful new ways of looking at, and challenging things. I went on a total rebellious streak against anything religious. But, over the past few years, living with depression a big part of it, on a deeply personal level, I've been able to connect with a few of my family members in ways that have helped my healing progress in depression.
There are very, very important core beliefs that I have about humanity, and human rights, though, that I wouldn't or never will let any religion try to change. Instead, I've gone looking into the religion and certain people within who cherish these progressive values. What I found was, in particular in the U.S., large numbers of people who only think there is room for their conservative, U.S. brand of Christianity. So, I've even made it a bit of my effort to 'take back' (or try to learn how to) what I feel has been stolen and slandered. Plus, I said from the start, the only way I was going to go into this and look at it was if I showed respect for every other belief system in existence. The problem with my tolerance is that, well, it doesn't quite tolerate fanaticism and extremism. So maybe there is a bit of an oxymoron there, but I can live with it.
The fundamentalist and the evangelical angle, using the One True GOD thing as an excuse for intolerance and bigotry, no matter how many thousands of sermons these people make, goes against so many of the things that I've read, in particular from the social activist Christians and theologians, about their God not excluding. The bible talks plenty of stories about accepting "refugees"..strangers and wanderers.

Sorry for the length...

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> Anyway, that's your thing
> It's just a good thing that you think that way now, and it's not a time where the church could brand you a heretic, and do mean and nasty things to your person.
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> ow
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Oh yes, I agree, but I think it is a bit exciting that we can find scientists, for example, who believe that Evolution theory can co-exist with Creationism. I still personally believe more in Evolution, and I don't see why it would have to exclude god. Anyhow...this is an interesting topic, and I appreciate you understanding my shortcommings on some of these issues. For me, there is nothing scarrier in the world than being confused for a fanatic, or any of those of a conservative religious nature.

Thanks,
Jay


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