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Re: Sadness over suicides-Everyone

Posted by kid_A on August 7, 2001, at 13:47:25

In reply to Re: Sadness over suicides-Everyone, posted by Ted on August 7, 2001, at 11:00:26


a. on the veer off the path, i think i am going to side w/ lissa in her points, especially as concerns external stressors... i will go so far as to say that i think that these stressors can even be oblique ones that are built in to a good percentage of the population as a whole, things such as anomie, the term durkheim had coined to describe the effect on mental health as the large scale behavioural structure of a society breaks down... as the social mores for behaviour start to untangle and eventually erode away some of us may increasingly be in a state of anomie, not having a good understanding of how we relate to one another, of what our social responsibilities to one another may be...

it seems long winded and technical, but i feel its almost inherent to depression to have a lack of understanding for the various relationships between people... i know i felt almost alien in the thick of my own depression...

b. on suicide, as some may have read, i had what i would call a near-death experience when i hydroplaned on a highway in atlanta... i could have been killed and i told my therapist that it certainly changed my feelings on suicide ideation, but that was a bit of a lie, i really dont have much feeling for it, i was more upset at myself, though that was really just from stress, after the fact i dont really have any emotion at all about it, i tell people i do, but i dont...

as a last point, on what ted has said, i think i understand what is meant as lack of control, i think that all suicides, unless commited in some sort of altered state of conciousness are the end result of a lack of control, the control mechanism is the will to live, the will to survive, to somehow, whatever way, make it through the night to the next day, the lack of control is the loosening of that grip on life...

i think you could even apply this broadly to suicide as a result of psychosis...


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