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Re: Umm, stuff that I'm ashamed of. » TF

Posted by Racer on December 15, 2007, at 1:46:04

In reply to Re: Umm, stuff that I'm ashamed of., posted by TF on December 14, 2007, at 13:39:58

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> Yeah, that's right. I'm really just after some evidence.

But it doesn't sound as though you want "some evidence" -- it sounds as though you want evidence which supports your fixed belief. That's the whole point of phrase -- your belief is fixed, and it's not responding to evidence to the contrary. By your own posts, the evidence does exist -- it's just that the evidence doesn't support your belief. And your belief is fixed, because it hasn't responded to the evidence which exists.

Yes, there are things which can cause body odors, both offensive and non-offensive. What's more, people are very different in response to odors, and in their sensitivity to odors. Personally, I am moderately sensitive to the odor of others, but I find a certain level of odor more attractive than distasteful. I don't mean "haven't bathed in recorded history, and believe deodorants are poison" odor, just the normal odors of skin and hair. (In fact, my husband -- who also believes he has a problem with body odor -- is sometimes annoyed by me, because I will stick my nose into the center of his chest and just breathe in his odor. To me, it's the smell of the man I love -- and NEVER offensive.)

Here's an idea for you, when someone opens your car window: ASK your passenger why? Don't ask if it's because you smell bad, because you won't believe the answer. Ask why they've opened the window of the car. Or even ask if there's an odor in your car they find bothersome. Be prepared to hear that they just like the moving air, though -- because some of us ALWAYS have to have a car window open, or the air conditioner turned on. I can't be in a car without one or the other, without getting carsick -- and it's nothing to do with odor.

Also, do you wear strong smelling deodorant or cologne? THAT will give many people headaches.


> I do have a mental disorder. I've become paranoid and anxious and depressed because of all of this. They tell me that the 'this' exists because I'm paranoid.

Is it possible for you to consider that maybe the concern about body odor really is due to a fixed, false belief associated with paranoia? Often, in order to dispel someone else's belief, you have to consider that belief -- in this case, that means carefully considering the doctor's theory that your concern about body odor is a sign of paranoia. It's possible you could find evidence to support his theory if you tried.

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>I have a feeling that all these 'legit' doctors have a conspiracy going.

Doesn't that sound a little paranoid to you?

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> My caretakers called me this week. I returned their calls, but if they try and get in touch with me again I think I'll just let it ring. With the exception of getting me into some classes, they're really not helping me.

Do you really think that's wise? You also mentioned going off your medication in another post. That sounds as though it might not be in your best interest right now.

Do you think the classes might be interesting? I'm taking some classes, and really enjoying the process -- even if the subject matter sometimes leaves me wondering why I'm doing it. It could be that taking some classes would be good for you -- for me, it gets me out of the house, it puts me in a room with other human beings, and it occupies a portion of my mind and my time. All of those are good things for me. You might find that there are benefits for you, as well.

Good luck.


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