Posted by toojane on January 31, 2007, at 9:00:17
In reply to Re: 'Not always a cry for help' - » toojane, posted by one woman cine on January 31, 2007, at 8:37:29
> I'm sorry you had a bad experience with pdoc's etc. but I think it's a stretch to assume there was no community for the suicidal students in the article.Hmmm. It is hard having a conversation through posts, especially about "hot" topics. I'm somehow not expressing my points well. I was not trying to say that there was "no community for the students."
I was troubled by the point being made in the article that students were "heaping violence" on themselves while they had a duty to their community not to. Intellectually, I understand that stance but emotionally it angered me.
I see it as holding the students accountable to be non-violent to themselves while there is no attendant accountability within the larger community (not just the educational one) to not do violence to them. So, you can be horribly abused and nothing is done by your community to help you but when you are suffering from the aftereffects of that abuse and your behaviour is a consequence of that abuse, it is you who are condemned for not meeting your community responsibilities of non-violence.
I don't know if that is clearer or not. Obviously, suicide is a very emotional topic. I have not meant to offend anyone, just to express my point of view.
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