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Re: i have been thinking...

Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2005, at 19:55:09

In reply to Re: i have been thinking... alexandra_k, posted by cricket on October 20, 2005, at 9:37:41

> Can you tell I'm talking to myself too? :-)

yes. and if they aren't helping us really come to believe this stuff then... they are harming.

i know there are some good clinicians out there.

i don't imagine they last long in community mental health. because of the work conditions. because of the pressure to get through huge numbers of cases. because of the pressure to have objective measures of helping at the cost of genuine caring whose effects are only indirectly measurable if at all. because a good clinician working in that environment probably wouldn't last long without burning out and being pressurised to change from management.

and so in a very real sense i suppose you get what you pay for.

though payment doesn't guarantee.

there are a lot of f*cked up people in the world. f*cked up individuals with f*cked up motivations and desires and f*cked up ideas as to how to achieve those. in my experience... clinicians can be just as f*cked up as the people who go see them wanting their help. the trouble is... we expect more.

but in these times where there is a shortage of caring people and so very many who need care entry to do this kind of thing isn't so much based on the kindness and willingness to reflect of the applicants as it is based on their grades and ability to suck up to the 'right people'. at least... thats my experience of clinical psychology / councelling programs in this country and i imagine in the rest of the world too.

i don't know...

good luck to them i suppose.

 

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