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Re: Unconditional Self Acceptance » Dinah

Posted by Miss Honeychurch on September 4, 2004, at 9:53:49

In reply to Re: Unconditional Self Acceptance, posted by Dinah on September 3, 2004, at 16:25:34

Dinah, I like your concept of every baby deserving care and nurturing, why does that change as we get older? It shouldn't change. This makes sense to me.

What doesn't make sense to me is that we should love ourselves simply because we are live. That we have a certain amount of self worth simply because we are alive. This concept to me implies that human beings are all "good." And I don't believe that. I believe that evil exists, and I'm not likening this to the devil or anything. I really belive that some people are "evil", that their evilness is not a result of any mental disorders or a childhood gone bad or bad brain chemistry. If I could get over this thought and truly belive that humanity is good to the core, I think I wouldn't have so much of a problem believing that self worth is based on simply being alive.

My T and I disagree about the evil thing and this really frustrates him I think. We had one session about this and talked about Charles Manson (yes, I can't belive I spent an hour on Charles Manson). I asked if he thought Charles Manson deserved psychiatric help, for say, depression, in jail. HE said "of course." That no one deserves to be depressed. I said I would have no problem if Charles Manson were severly depressed the rest of his life. I feel Charles Manson a. doesn't "deserve" mental health care and b. is one of those "evil ones" on whom therapy would have no effect. My T was slightly horrified by this attitude as he feels everyone should have access to mental health care and that everyone deserves it, including Charles Manson. And I have no idea where I'm going with his. Sorry...


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