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Self-Help Group with Manual (maybe on p-book club) » Dinah

Posted by mattdds on December 29, 2003, at 19:56:16

In reply to Re: Therapist Orientation? CBT or psychodynamic? » mattdds, posted by Dinah on December 29, 2003, at 15:43:11

> I'm sorry, Matt. I misunderstood the purpose of this thread. I'm glad Gardenergirl was more on the ball.
>

I didn't articulate myself very well in the beginning as to what I was looking for. No need to apologize.

> I think you'll be most likely to get what you want if you just phrase a question that you would like a CBT outlook on, and see if you get any responses. If you phrase it as a direct question, it may be less likely to go off track. I tried that once or twice with DBT and got limited response. I think maybe we aren't sure of our knowledge base? I know I might be reluctant to answer something that requires specific knowledge. That may be the reason.

Yeah, you're probably right. I remember your DBT thread, and I remember posting similar threads that got little or no response. Let me be clear, I don't think people are *responsible* for answering my questions or following up on my threads. I'm just trying to find some people who are looking for the same thing I am.

Knowledge base *is* likely the problem. I would even go further and say *jargon* is the problem. Even if we decided on CBT, for example, there are different names that different CB therapists use for the same techniques.

I think I may have an idea to try to solve this problem. Here is my idea, please tell me what you think:

I'd like try to assemble a self-help group using a standardized manual. You mentioned Bourne's books before. I might suggest "Mind Over Mood" or "Ten Days To Self Esteem" by Burns. Those interested in participating could vote on the book.

Whoever decided to participate would have to obtain a copy of the book, and adhere to the concepts and language of the book. I know there have been many self-help groups assembled based on the Burns manual.

I wonder if it could be done at psycho-babble book club? With reading assignments and everything.

It sounds robotic, but I think it would give everyone a standardized, methodical way of communicating and working toward solving problems.


I even had in mind taking initial statistics from everyone, provided they are willing to provide them. I thought of assessing mood, anxiety, procrastincation by means of scales, and monitoring the progress of the group. Also, whether the person is receiving meds of therapy. I also thought of showing the outcome (e.g. reduction in measurable anxiety, and mood in the participants) of the "therapy" at completion.

When I get a bit more time, maybe I'll give this a try, and post more about it. Maybe tomorrow I'll start a new thread to see if anyone is interested.

Take care,

Matt


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