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Re: Anthony Bourdain » alexandra_k

Posted by beckett2 on October 23, 2018, at 17:12:04

In reply to Re: Anthony Bourdain, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 2:29:19

In our area, the coast below SF, even in our area, within say 30 miles, there were numerous tribes called the Ohlone people.

I understand being foreign in your country. In Hawaii, me and my family will always be haole. Foreigners. From wiki:

The 1865 Dictionary of the Hawaiian Language, compiled by Lorrin Andrews, shows the pronunciation as ha-o-le. A popular belief is that the word is properly written and pronounced as haole, literally meaning "no breath," because foreigners did not know or use the honi (hongi in Maori), a Polynesian greeting by touching nose to nose and inhaling or essentially sharing each other's breaths, and so the foreigners were described as breathless. The implication is not only that foreigners are aloof and ignorant of local ways, but also literally have no spirit or life within.

> Different Maaori tribes are different...
>
> There's some awful Maaori in Auckland (my personal experience of them was that they were awful to me).
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> There was a real focus in Auckland on Maaori-dom. On this idea of people being on a hierarchy and equality for Maaori or equity for Maaori was when they had comperable positions on the hierarchy as white people.
>
> The idea of the Treaty as being an international thing. So there is no nation of New Zealand. Maaori soverignty. They didn't ask settlers to settle here and we should go away.
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> Or spend all our time sitting still on the Marae keeping our mouths shut listening to the Maaori elders rant at us in Maaori because...
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> Well...
>
> In reparation of how he was supposed to sit still and shut up in the classroom when he was a kid, I suppose.
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> I don't know.
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> By Maori for Maori. They are clear. I'm not Maori. So...
>
> Where does that leave me?
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> Sh*t out of luck.
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> So... It's hard not to be racist in Auckland. Becuase the Auckland Maori I experienced were racist towards me because I'm not Maori. So all I'm allowed to do is parrot back to them exactly what they've said to me. Unthinkingly and without understanding. And... For me to get out / get away because I am not wanted there.
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> They couldn't be any clearer.
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> The Waikato Maori weren't like that... From memory. And they didn't much like the Auckland Maori, either. Something something about selling out their own people and...
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> But I haven't even seen a Marae down here...
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> I read something about how peoples used to be more diverse...
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> Like how fruits and vegetables and so on... There used to be far more people and they were more distict from one another...
>
> Anyway...
>
>


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