Posted by Lou Pilder on March 18, 2008, at 15:03:37
In reply to Lou's reply to rayww-ovrcom-7stges-1n2 » rayww, posted by Lou Pilder on March 18, 2008, at 14:42:31
> > Would your seven steps parallell the steps in AA? http://www.recovery.org/aa/misc/12steps.html Or how about one of these?
> > http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-27,00.html
> > They are all similar, and taught by many religions, only with a bit of difference. http://www.ou.org/chagim/elul/foursteps.html
> > http://lds.about.com/od/basicsgospelprinciples/a/bb_repentance2.htm
> >
> > What are your seven steps? If you have outlined them already and I have missed it, I apologize.
>
> rayww,
> You wrote,[...what are the 7 {steps}?...]
> I believe that that is your question to me in regards to that I wrote that there are 7 {stages}.
> These stages are different from {steps} but I think that we could use both to have an understanding of ewhat I mean by 7 stages.
> It has been revealed to me that there are 7 stages involved in overcomming. In your links you write about repentance and such and I think that I can tie that into the discussion someplace, for it does belong in the revelation that has been given to me.
> The 7 stages involved with overcomming have been revealed to me in the book called The Revelation. In chapter 2 we have them and let us look at these.
> In verse 5, it reads,[...Remember thearfore from which you have fallen;repent and do the first works...], so to repent is involved here. Going to verse 7, it reads;
> [...To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God...
> That is the first {stage}, and it does involve to repent.
> Now let's look at verse 10;
> [...Be faithful until death and I will give you the crown of life...He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death...].
> Here we have the second stage in overcomming which involves faithfulnes until death after one first partakes of the tree of life.
> It has been revealed to me that we have a promise that those that overcome will not be hurt by the second death which is death and hell (Hades) being cast into the lake of fire. If one is not hurt by the second death that are those that overcome, then could those that do not overcome be hurt by the second death? (I will answer that question from my perspective soon).
> stages 3-7 comming...
> Lourayww,
Now let us look at verse 17,[...to him that overcomes I will give to eat of the hidden manna and a white stone and a new name...]
Preceding that verse it talks about idols and other gods. I can not write what it means here concerning this stage because it involves {the children of Israel} (verse 14) and what is to be repented from. This is because Mr. Hsiung has made a rule here that I can not post here concerning the foundation of my faith in regards to that it has been revealed to me supernaturally that I XXX(the foundation of Judaism).
The third stage is concerning the {children of Israel}. It has been revealed to me that the {children of Israel} are those that are {children of Israel} in their hearts. One can email if they like to see the posts involved authored by Mr. Hsiung for there were new rules made about a year 1 1/2 ago that I am unsure of as to if those rules could allow me to post the links to those posts. I am sorry, I really am that I can not post any more concerning to the 3erd stage of overcomming here.
Lou
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