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Re: yay - less taurine is more » LOOPS

Posted by tealady on February 5, 2007, at 15:53:13

In reply to Re: yay - less taurine is more, posted by LOOPS on February 4, 2007, at 7:15:08

> Hi tealady -
>
> good to hear something is working for you - I take kelp powder sometimes or just try to eat lots of seafood (I'm not bothered about PCBs really - maybe I should be).
>
> I can't take tyrosine either - makes me nuts. I have enough dopamine these days to drive an army - apart from at night when I conk out early (which is good I think - a real improvement for me).
>
> About the dose - well, my diet is really high in animal products right now and I think I'm probably getting some taurine because of that anyway - BUT apparently heat does destroy this amino and I don't eat all raw meat etc!
>
> When I was vegan a couple of years back (never ever ever ever again I can tell you) I was taking about 1g of taurine a day and feeling ok - but eventually that did build up on me as well. Taurine does indeed build up or is retained.
>
> I'm still magnesiuming though - that is more important to me.
>
> Tealady I do well with B1 as well - but recently I haven't seemed to need taking extra since I started on these 'food-grown' vitamins - very expensive but they seem to work well.
>
> Loops

If I could get my hands (mouth) on some fresh seafood, I'd much prefer that to kelp too :) I don't woory about the pcbs either. Isn't it from large fish mostly?

I like the idea of those food grown vitamins. I think there might be something it that .. all the supps I've gone well on seem "plant/animal".. like siberian ginseng, milk thistle, kelp?
I'm sure kelp is helping and yet KI and iodized salt didn't seem to.

I'm not sure about lactoferrin(unless derived from whey?) or SAMe.. guess they wasn't based on a plant or animal and they were OK, so maybe not, and yet I think in general it seems to hold true for me. B1 would be another exception.. but I suspect that's because the Armour(pig's thyroid extract) was depleting B1 (just a hunch based on pig muscle having way more B1 than other animals)... and maybe I'm just lowish on it for some reason for starters so that just pushed me way too low?. Maybe some of us tend to be low genetically compared to others, but I think they haven't found anything like that as yet.
Mg helps the pentose pathway which is where B1 is also needed, so now I benefit more from Mg I suspect. I once tried over 8 grams of Mg, citrate I think it was? or it may just have been Mg CO3? I forget now, before having any effect on constipation. I recall feeling pretty desperate at the time and talking to TJ on the net while taking it :).. it was when I was trying iron an lecithin I think? but I can't find it now..

In Australia B1 isn't added to white rice, but they have started adding it to white flour in 1990's. In NZ its added to nothing yet as far as I know.. this is unlike to US and Canada.
I dont know what happens where you live.
I used to wonder why I felt bad after eating white rice but not brown rice.. really fatigued. I can now inject some B1 and eat white white:)
same with wine (where the sulfites deplete the B1).

I've never heard of those food based vitamins you mention in Oz though?

Best wishes,
Jan
http://www.jantea.blog.co.uk



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