Posted by tealady on November 4, 2004, at 18:55:19
In reply to Re: Low plasma vitamin E levels in major depression » JLx, posted by raybakes on November 4, 2004, at 13:09:18
So this may be why some of us,like me, feel worse on fish oil
(link from another thread by Lar)
http://www.iherb.com/fishoil.html#Vitamin%20EFish oil and vitamin E go together
BELTSVILLE, MARYLAND. Fish oils are beneficial in the prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease. They do, however, oxidize very easily and therefore add to the oxidant stress on the body. An experiment was recently carried out by the U.S. Department of Agriculture to see if an increased intake of vitamin E could counteract this detrimental effect of fish oils. Forty men aged 32. to 44 were involved. The men consumed a controlled diet for a total of 28 weeks. For the first 10 weeks they received the fish oil plus 200 mg of vitamin E (all-rac-alpha-tocopherol). The urinary excretion of peroxidation products (malondialdehyde) more than doubled when the fish oil capsules were introduced but then dropped by a factor of four when vitamin E was added. The vitamin E concentration in he red blood cells dropped very significantly when fish oil was ingested but more than recovered with the vitamin E supplement.Last year I phoned around suppliers in Oz. Seems no fish oil is produced in Oz..all imported from O'seas by ship and not refridgerated as far as I could tell.
I'd bought 4 different brands but they all seemed a bit rancid.
In the UK I bought some and it is not as smelly..so I guess all Oz fish oil is a bit sus.
Even the stuff with VitE added..got some of that too..problem is the VitE is not added until the local capsule filler adds the imported fish oil.
I did suggest refridgeration to a couple of the better suppliers but the idea didn't go down well.It was good to see the brown bottles sitting out in the sun in open malls at the Gold Coast last summer..would have been over 100 in the shade..the bottles were too hot to touch <g>.
I do like sardines though, and feel better after eating them..but there is only so much one can eat.
Eating fish oil for me must lower an already low VitE level and cause oxidative stress too.
I do agree about needing a higher omega3:omega6 balance..but I'm trying to achieve this by eating greens, omega3 rich eggs(or grass fed), omega3 enriched bread occasionally, dairy (hopefully grass fed), not grain fed beef..but difficult to find grass fed only these days..they use trucks now for transporting the cattle instead of droving and fatten up in yards etc so unless you can find a country butcher that slaughters their own local area...
Also a spoon of linseed meal on my brekkie sometimes and sometimes flaxseed oil on skin instead of coconut oil. Using it up this way as I heard it goes rancid too, but a least it was refridgerated in the shop, if not beforehand.any other ideas folk?
Jan
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