Posted by tealady on October 3, 2004, at 20:45:32
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog?- Larry » Simus, posted by raybakes on September 29, 2004, at 13:49:39
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> > And to complicate matters, I have read that in people with both adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism, the adrenal fatigue should be treated first. People with both can feel worse if given thyroid hormone before the adrenals are stronger. ???
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> Hi Simus, this study supports your view about treating adrenals first..
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> Evaluation of thyroid function in patients with isolated adrenocorticotropin deficiency.
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> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1332472
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> Ray
>Thanks from me too Ray, good one
Sounds like me I guess too. Unfortunately it's even more difficult to get lowish adrenal function treated or even tested...especially ACTH.
I think I'll have to try though.
It's all or nothing with most endos (Cushings, normal, or addisons).
Before taking thyroid hormones by morning cortsol was 310 (about 11 in US)..some say for safety it should be over 12..or preferably 15(multiply by 28 I think from memory for rest of world's units) or more to cope when your metabolism raises with the thyroid meds.After about 3 months on THYROID (Armour) my muscles went strangely really tight..like an athletes...then I developed carpel tunnel like symptoms. I had to add in cortisol to normalise, relax the muscles and stop the pain.
Before adding in the cortisol , my saliva 4 times a day cortisol tests showed pretty low...so low at that midnight (although I couldn't last up that long awake, so took it earlier)..it showed "too low for a reading"..and yes that was hw I felt.
So in me anyway adding in the thyroid meds seemed to cause my already "just coping most of the time" adrenals to crash..or that story seems to cover the symptoms.I guess liquorice would raise ACTH levels? (I need to check this)
I think it raises with
cortisol(by not converting)
and oestrogen(no idea how)
and raises sodium(maybe by helping retain in urine) as well as lowering potassium.
Ray, I'm really very interested in yur approach ..like lowering the antibodies ..as that has been what I have always thought would be the way to go.
You're way ahead of me though and my brain is not functioning very well at present..just wants to go away and do something else and forget it all(fishing sounds good).
I haven't heard of a lot of things you are taking..do you order them from the US..and how did you find out about all of this?
More later, but thanks. It's all very inetersting.
Jan
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