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Re: Excuse me for elbowing my way in here.......... » TeeJay

Posted by tealady on September 26, 2004, at 21:06:53

In reply to Excuse me for elbowing my way in here.........., posted by TeeJay on September 25, 2004, at 18:54:18

Hiya TJ,
>
> No great method to my approach, I just had a look at what I had lying around still (I hate chucking expensive supps away) and decided to start taking a few things.

>
> My regimen is this (and has been now for 2 weeks ish). At night before bed and all at once, selenium 200mcg, zinc 15mg, B6 100mg, ginkgo biloba 120mg and lithium orotate 120mg....in the morning I've been taking 500mg n acetyl cysteine.
>
> I've actually been feeling a little more motivated, but extremely tired and very emotional and "wired" its making me question if anything i'm taking may be the cause. Also feeling very "disconnected" at the moment too and extremely short tempered and irritable.


Hmmm well mostly I think it's best to start off with just one thing(or group of things) at a time, otherwise I can't tell what is doing what.

I know it's slower, and sometimes I feel like desperate....but unfortunately too many things at once usually just means some counteract the others and ya just can't tell..except ya feel ...well pretty much about like ya just described..

>>
>> The reason I ask on this thread, is Jan thinks I may well have quite a few symptoms of hypothyroidism


not exactly...I just think a lot of ME, fibromyalgia and hypothyroid symptoms are pretty similar..for a lot it may be something stopping optimal thyroid hormone function too...not necessarily that their thyroids are stuffed though

>
>>and having recently started the selenium I wondered if it might be aggravating my symptoms?


Well here's something on selenium where you live
Selenium in the UK
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmagric/233/233app30.htm

Note this bit...in part6(ii) "Bulls have a higher demand for selenium than cows—it is a male mammal requirement—because they lose a fraction of their selenium reserves with each ejaculation" <g>

which I figure means all guys in the UK need at least 100mcg selenium daily (due to their soil deficit in the source of their food..eg wheat is now sourced from EU rather than Canada(I think)
so 200mcg to start out to build up for a few months..and then it depends <g> ...no more than 200mcg though as one can get too much a well..and too much also makes one more hypo in symptoms
Hmm I wonder if ya can tell from selenium intake requirements..kidding!

so selenium seems to be a good thing to start out on...every person in the UK probably needs to take some.


Selenium in the UK
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmagric/233/233app30.htm

Note this bit...in part6(ii) "Bulls have a higher demand for selenium than cows—it is a male mammal requirement—because they lose a fraction of their selenium reserves with each ejaculation" <g>

which I figure means all guys in the UK need at least 100mcg selenium daily (due to their soil deficit in the source of their food..eg wheat is now sourced from EU rather than Canada(I think)
so 200mcg to start out to build up..and then it depends<g> ...no more than 200mcg though as one can get too much a well..and too much also makes one more hypo in symptoms
Hmm I wonder if ya can tell from selenium intake requirements..kidding!

So selenium seems to be a good thing to start out on...every person in the UK probably needs to take some.

>
>>If anyone has any thoughts on anything else I'm taking and how it may be affecting me, I'd be interested to hear their views too.


Well I hope ya get other responses as I don't know anything about n acetyl cysteine and I've never tried ginkgo biloba (although I've heard somewhere ya shouldn't take it if you may get pregnant<g>) or lithium orotate.
RE lithium..I don't think I'd be trying that with the others to start with as the effects are may be counteracting the others...it can cause hypo symptoms

If it was me ..I think I'd just continue with the selenium for a couple of weeks and see how you feel... (if you get a metallic taste immediately after taking you could be on too much, but I doubt it)
then if you have copper pipes in your plumbing add in the zinc for the next week or so..and see how you are again (15mg per day should be a good level for starters too)

..then add in the B6 for the next couple of weeks (but maybe only 25mg or 50 mg) and take only with a multiB(or any multi ..can have C as well or a few low dose minerals too) ..with levels varying between say 10 and 25 of each for strength guidance?)

I'd be taking the selenium, zinc and B6 /multi in the morning with brekkie...they tend to be more on the energising side to the sedating side.

I'll dig up some posts later on the lithium...

Jan


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