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Re: what I'm planning on trying

Posted by KaraS on August 8, 2004, at 2:45:17

In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Simus on August 7, 2004, at 15:46:35

> Well, to be honest, I first need to be more dedicated to taking the supplements I am already on EVERY day and not get lax here and there. They seem to work well over time.

I hear you. Recently I've gotten so tired of taking things. I didn't used to mind it but now I'm sick of it. So I slack off or stop altogether and I start feeling more ill again.

> I had noticed an immediate improvement on P-5-P (B6) for brain fog and edema, and also B5 (that's a big for getting over adrenal fatigue).

I take quite a bit of B vitamins now so I'll have to see how the totals compare to what is recommended in the book.

>The magnesium, vitamin C and quercetin helped with allergies very quickly too. But I know I need more C than what I am taking.

I'll have to compare my C intake against the book as well. I bought quercetin a while back but haven't used it diligently and probably not at a sufficient dose. I got lazy and started taking Zyrtec when I need it. I really should try the quercetin again though. How much do you take and do you take it everyday? Also, how much magnesium are you taking?

> I would like to add some aminos acids and get back on the digestive enzymes (these made me SO hungry though - don't know why).

That article that Larry recommended to me on adrenal fatigue emphasized taking l-tyrosine. I'm still debating whether to add that one though as I've tried it before to no avail. I felt absolutely nothing on it - not even the slightest bit of energy change. I think that something is malfunctioning, that my body isn't processing it as it should. I've still got some left here so maybe I should just use it up.


> I am trying to get up the nerve to try some basic herbals like licorice. The herbals sound harmless, but I haven't always had good reactions to them so I am a little leary...

I am also apprehensive about trying things. It's scary. You just don't know how you're going to react and I always imagine the worst. I worry that I'll go into anaphylactic shock from each new supplement or medicine that I try. (I used to make sure I was around people when I first tried something new just in case.) Hope I haven't made you more fearful of trying things.

> Anyway, my goal is to just be more disciplined with getting the basics regularly, getting enough of them, and THEN I want to start adding to them.


Same here. I'm just adding St. John's Wort right now and trying to get my lifestyle, habits and diet to be healthier - though I don't really have the patience for all of that right now. I figure if I can get the depression under control, then I'll have more energy to devote to everything else.

> > If there's anything in particular you're interested in, I can probably direct you to some good information.
>
> Thanks. I always have questions.

I forgot to mention that my idea of directing you to good information is "find Larry and ask him". (LOL)

>
> The "Adenal Fatigue" book you recommended says that I should be quitting caffeine. I knew it was going to say that but I dread the thought of giving up my beloved java (if I think it's hard gettin out of bed now...).
>
> Hey, you got the book! Do you like it?
> And yep. Coffee would have been a hard one to give up at one time for me too, but on Wellbutrin I can't handle caffeine well, so it is no big deal now. I drink green tea and ginseng tea for a more natural "pick-me-up" feeling. I never really liked the caffeine jittery feeling anyway.

I've only skimmed the book so far but I think it's going to be very helpful. Even once I've assimilated all of the information, it's the kind of book that is inspirational so worth going back to reread many times to keep yourself on the right path.

I have to find some good substitute for coffee. I hate tea and since I can't take gingseng, how will I ever wake up?

> > It does sound like you are missing work but it's probably also quite nice not to have that pressure on you right now so that you can heal.
>
> Very true.
>
> > Your depression is much better on the Wellbutrin and your adrenal fatigue is better because of your program to address it, right?
>
> I have virtually no depression and very little anxiety now on Wellbutrin - that is, if I get enough sleep, eat right, and take the supplements. The adrenal fatigue symptoms are MUCH better - but they are quick to come back if I don't take the supplements, get enough rest, or if I become stressed physically or emotionally.

That's awesome! I'm really envious.

>
> > What would you say are your worst symptoms right now that would make work difficult? Brain fog? Lack of memory? Energy level? Depression?
>
> Without question the number one problem now is sleep. I do very, very well when I get enough sleep. But when I push myself (like on vacation) to go to bed when everyone else does (and lay there for a few hours with my mind racing) and get up when everyone else does (they're well rested - I'm exhausted), I am a complete mess after a couple days. I can't imagine feeling like that and trying to get work done too. (Well, actually I can imagine it. Every time I had a job where I started early in the morning, even in my teens, I felt bad all day long: exhausted, trouble concentrating and remembering, blood sugar drops, etc.)

You have to force yourself to try things for sleep. Then once you have that under control, you'll be so much better off. Of course there's always that issue of having to deal with the early hours. I hope that's fixable for both of our sakes.

>
> > My mother recently said, when I told her that I was having some bad side effects from the Rhodiola, "Oh, why are you bothering with all that stuff?" The level of ignorance and denial that I have had to deal with is just staggering.
>
> You're right. It's just ignorance. There is no way to understand what it is like to live like this unless you go through it yourself.

Don't you wish you could force other people to experience this for just a little while so that they understand?

> > I have an MBA but have never really lived up to the degree... Aside from the depression and debilitating symptoms... I did have symptoms that slowed me down a lot and the lack of energy was too apparent...
>
> How well I understand that! Every little thing seems monumental...
>
> >I have been working doing some temporary work for a couple of places recently. One of these experiences has been quite good for me. I get some positive feedback and enjoy the people a lot. It gets me out of the house as well, which is good in and of itself. I just need to do much more and soon.
>
> Yes, I understand how important it is to just get out of the house be around people. And if you find something that you enjoy and you are appreciated too, go for it!
>
> > I'm hoping that this Perika (the most dopaminergic and stimulating of the St. John's Wort formulations) I started on recently and an adrenal fatigue program (still being devised) will give me the boost I need to start making much needed initiatives very soon. I'll keep you posted as to what works for me.

So far this Perika is making me tired and nauseous. I hate having to take these things!!!! I'll be so disappointed if this doesn't work out.

Talk to you later.

Kara



>
> Good luck!
>
> > In the meantime, I'm off to hunt for Larry!
>
> Ha! You take everything west of the Mississippi, and I will handle the rest.
>
> Simus


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