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Re: Tryptophan Experience » Larry Hoover

Posted by Ron Hill on January 1, 2004, at 13:30:07

In reply to Re: Larry, how is your sleep? » Ron Hill, posted by Larry Hoover on January 1, 2004, at 11:57:43

Larry,

> > I know that you do not want to conduct numerous trials simultaneously, but I was wondering if you have tried the vet grade tryptophan that you ordered several weeks ago. If so, does it help your sleep at all?

> It hasn't come yet.
>
> I had 11 grams of prescription tryptophan from an earlier trial (apparently in 1999), so I did one 5 gram bolus. I didn't notice anything beneficial from it, but my sleep was disturbed that night for other reasons (sick children to care for).
>
> I'll probably do two three gram trials this weekend.

Two days ago I bought some pharm-grade (not to be confused with farm-grade) tryptophan and I took 500 mg. I liked it, but I'll resist the temptation to draw too many conclusions from a single dose response. I took it on an empty stomach and noticed the effects within about 30 or 45 minutes. It provided a soothing kind of feeling, eliminated my slight irritability, and it almost felt like a mood stabilizer in my brain. I didn't expect the mood stabilizer effect. On the downside, it made me feel a little weird; almost like a slightly drugged feeling. Also, it seemed to adversely affect my fine motor skills to a small degree.

For now, I’m going to use tryptophan on a PRN basis (and only if I absolutely need it) because I’ve been doing really well for about a week now and I don’t want to rock the boat with a new trial right now. About two weeks ago I sank into a very deep atypical depressive episode and I’m not sure what caused it. It was worse (and somewhat different in nature) than my usual bouts of bipolar II depression. My best guess is that it was caused by either: 1) seven weeks of l-theanine at 400 mg/day, 2) two days of Rhodiola rosea at 205 mg, or 3) I’m cycling (bipolar). I want to keep my meds and supplements steady for a while too see if I’m cycling. When I fell into depression a couple weeks ago I stopped taking Rhodiola rosea and, for the time being, I take l-theanine on a PRN basis and only if I absolutely have to have it to reduce my irritability.

In summary, I liked my one dose of l-tryptophan and I will eventually try using more of it. Also, at some point in the not too distant future, I plan to try tyrosine and taurine.

Please post your response to your upcoming tryptophan trial.

-- Ron


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