Posted by tealady on September 7, 2003, at 0:16:04
In reply to mineral forms...orotate, posted by tealady on September 6, 2003, at 23:42:54
>>> At present, I will scrupulously avoid two forms of salts, those with orotate, and those with piccolinate.
>I have just been taking large doses of magnesium carbonate and ascorbic acid(a heaped teaspoon of each) mixed together with a little water, and zinc picolinate, B6.. parsley (I hate cilantro), chlorella, selenium as well as normal vitamins. I have had amalgam removed and was doing what I thought was a safe mild "chelation".I thought the thing against picolinate forms was their ability to chelate?
Here they reckon that as a metal chelator the picolinate chelates out more zinc than the tablets puts in?? Of course it's written by the folks who own the patent on the glycine chelated form.... nah, that wouldn't influence the research...
http://www.albionlabs.com/human/Newsletter/2000October.html
says zinc "glycine (amino acid)" chelate is good and zinc picolinate chelate is bad as picolinate is NOT USABLE BY BODY as well as chelating more zinc than you take in the tablet and other minerals from your body...hopefully mercury!
"absorption of zinc, in vivo, did not vary in favor of the use of picolinate or citrate, when compared to zinc sulfate"
All I can say is my taste is so much stronger now afer a few days on zinc picolinate compared to zinc sulphate at comparable doses (50mg-90mg per day)..backing down from today, so that would indicate that picolinate does have greater effect"the use of picolinic acid led to an increase in urinary and fecal output of zinc. In addition, the residual zinc levels in the tissues of the animals were reduced in the picolinate fed animals, even in the animals that were fed diets containing 0.8 mmol Zn/Kg. These observations indicated that picolinic acid increased the turnover of endogenous zinc and it enhances the excretion of ingested (supplemental) zinc. This gives cause to question the use of picolinate as a chelating ligand for supplemental zinc."
"The urinary zinc, copper and magnesium increased with increasing picolinate supply."
Then I came across a thread where they were discussing picolinate forms causing cancer ..in chromium picolinate
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=50658.3Lar, I have only scanned this so far, but I was wondering why you were against picolinate forms.
Haven't tried any chromium as yet, unless it is in a multi.Thanks as always, Jan
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