Posted by Lou Pilder on March 15, 2015, at 19:55:00
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on March 15, 2015, at 11:12:42
> > I now think that there is a real and present danger here by you leaving the statement to be seen as supportive as that a subset of readers could think that you and any deputy of record are validating what the statement could purport, which could lead to the deaths of Jews as either being victims of antisemitic violence
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> I wouldn't say I'm leaving it there to be seen as supportive; I'd just say I'm leaving it there. Or, if I'm leaving it to be seen as supportive, I'm also leaving your statements to be seen as supportive.
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> And, I'm less worried than you about those statements leading to violence.
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> > You claim here that the statement in question does not constitute hate speech in your thinking. I say to you that it depends on the jurisdiction that one is in when they post the statements in question that I am attempting to have you purge here or post a repudiation to.
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> True. I consider this my jurisdiction.
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> > You may not think the statements in question constitute hate-speech. But I do.
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> OK, reasonable people can disagree.
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> > as I see the historical record, those that tried to persuade the members of their community that they were doing good for the community as a whole by making genocide and the others state-sponsored, got away with slavery and genocide until the people could not wait any longer to see this "good" that was promised by the leaders saying to trust them.
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> True, the historical record is rife with injustice, and unjust leaders. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. In a way, I see you as the voice of eternal vigilance.
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> BobMr. Hsung,
Let there be no misunderstanding here. You wrote;
[...I would not say that I am leaving it {the collection of statements that defame Jews and others that I am objecting to here as being allowed to be seen as supportive by you}there to be seen as supportive...].
Well, if you are not leaving them to be seen as supportive, why are you leaving them since they can be seen as supportive by you?
Lou Pilder
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