Posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2008, at 8:14:43
In reply to Re: Lou's request for criteria-cnstahtutpuhtdn? » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on August 13, 2008, at 12:01:33
> The general rule is that it's fine to post those portions of your faith that are about what you believe for yourself, as long as you also respect that others have different beliefs.
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> So to take two common examples, my understanding is that it would be ok to say "My faith teaches that I and others of my faith reach salvation through faith in Jesus Christ." or "I believe that I will reach salvation through faith in Jesus Christ." It wouldn't be ok to say "My faith teaches that the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ." because that wouldn't be respectful of the beliefs of non-Christians.
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> My understanding is that it would be ok to say "My faith says that those of my faith should worship God, and put no gods before him." or "I love the Lord, my God and but worship none but him." It wouldn't be ok to post "My faith teaches that everyone should worship God and put no Gods before him."
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> Those are just two examples.
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> It wouldn't of course be ok to post that anyone who doesn't believe something will burn in hell. It wouldn't be ok to post anything that could reasonably lead those of other faiths to feel accused or put down.
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> It doesn't matter if any of the above is prefaced by "The Bible/Koran/etc. says..." or "I believe..." or "My church teaches..." or "It was revealed to me..."
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> It's fine to have whatever beliefs you have, but Babble may not be an appropriate place to post some of those beliefs.
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> The idea behind all of this is that there are many people at Babble. Christians, Jews, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Wiccan, Athiest, and more. Religion can be a highly personal and highly charged topic. The main purpose of Babble is for support and education about mental health issues, not lively debate. Dr. Bob wants to foster a supportive and respectful environment.
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> As far as I know, you can post any part of your Revelation that you like, as long as it fits in with the above. If your revelation, for example, contains the imperative to worship one God, and put none before Him, that is fine to post as long as you limit it to what God told *you*, or you and those who believe as you do, to do, and don't generalize it to what everyone (including pantheists and atheists) should do.
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> My understanding of Dr. Bob's application of Faith Board guidelines is not as clear as I would like. I think part of the problem is that I have a different understanding of matters of faith than Dr. Bob does. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the topic, but theology is something of an interest of mine. I think that inevitably leads to a difference in how we read things. So... all of the above is my interpretation only, and I can't guarantee that Dr. Bob will see things the same way. However, if he decides something differently than what I said above, I'll take the blame if Dr. Bob doesn't see fit to correct what I wrote.
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> That's pretty much as detailed as I can make my understanding. I hope it's helpful.Dinah,
You wrote, [...I hope it's helpful...].
After revewing the text in comparison to the issues at hand here concerning my want for infomation to the requests that are seen in the threads here on this board now, there is a want for information by me that I can not find clear answers for me in your reply to me to my concerns, in particular but not limited to as to all the criteria used by the adminstration to determine if a statement constitutes one that could lead another to feel put down.
In your reply to me, you wrote,[...it doesn't matter if...it is prefaced with "I believe..."...]. Your reply there in relation to your statement as to that you hope your reply to me is helpful, is bringing up what I am trying to get a resolution to and have not acheived as of yet to that kind of situation here. Your reply to me could mean IMO that you agree with me in respect to a particular situation that is ongoing and that I feel is unresolved to me here as to that use by a member of the prefacing with {I believe}.
In another ongoing situation here that to me I feel is unresolved here is in relation to that you wrote,[...it wouldn't be OK to post anything that could reasonably lead those of other faiths to feel accused or put down...]. Your statement could IMO be in agreement or not in agreement with me in relation to ongoing unresolved issues here for me, as to what the criteria are here that the administration uses to determine what constitutes a statement that could or could not reasonably lead one of another faith to feel accused or put down. I see a few examples here in your text, but I can not apply those few examples to all statements in relation to my ongoing concerns. I was looking for a reply that could be applied to the ongoing concerns of mine here that are as of now on the board as reminders from me to Mr. Hsiung in relation to the terms of service here for the administration board's purpose that I am awaiting replies to.
In that you wrote here,[..it is fine to post what God told you...]. I am unsure as to if you are or or not agreeing with me in relation that in the statement in question that [...{my} God has revealed {to me},supernasturally, a commandment {to me} that {I} XXX (the foundation of Judaism)...] is fine to post or not for there is adminstrative comment here concerning that that may be diferent from what I could understand from your statement concerning that ongoing concern of mine here.
You wrote,[..not the place to post some of those beliefs..]. I am unsure as to if you are agreeing with me or not in relation to the ongoing concerns of mine that posts of the nature in question, that could be of those that are some of those beliefs or not.
I think that for Mr. Hsiung to reply to the concerns of mine that are outstanding, that that could IMO be the most helpful here in knowing what all the criteria are that are used by the adminstration to determine as to if a statement does or does not lead another to feel accused or put down in relation to the ongoing concerns of mine here concerning that.
If anyone would like to see a comprehensive list of the posts here that could be in relation to this discussion, you could email me if you like.
Lou
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