Posted by Toph on March 17, 2005, at 18:18:51
In reply to Re: some thoughts » Toph, posted by AuntieMel on March 17, 2005, at 10:57:47
> Life is an experiment, all net forums are experiments, we experiment with meds, therapies and alternative treatments .....
> But many are drawn to here instead of 'brand x' because of the feeling of comfort and safety, because real lives are in turmoil and a constantly changing babble would be too much to handle.
I'm glad you like it here, mostly I do too. I can't speak for Bob but I suspect that he is relying on a sort of evolutionary theory of change. Some change is good and some change is not so good, but as someone said the only thing in life that is consant, is change.
> 2) a rigid, externally controlled group is severely handicapped in developing all the benefits of a positive group dynamic.
> We are all suffering from varying degrees of different mental conditions. Aren't we already handicapped when it comes to group dynamics?
You know, there are some incredibly capable people here, including you, Mel, so I say, no, our group might just be different from the others.
> I personally like having a 'controlled' way to work on how I relate to other people. If it were left up to other posters to tell me when I was wrong - well I'd never know if it is me or them with the problem. While the punishments may (and do) seem unfair at times the *concept* of what is acceptable and what is not is pretty constant. It doesn't change based on personalities, time of year, weather or phase of the moon.
Yeah, I think its a good idea to coerce competent adults to wear seatbelts. I would wear them anyway, but I don't have to like it.
> How many of us had problems with constantly changing or unrealistic expectations while growing up? How many were unaccepted because of being 'different' for some reason or another? I fit both of those - and am grateful I don't see it here.
Me too, if that's what you think would happen then it would be a big mistake to even try anything different. I am beginning to be convinced by some people here that have a greater investment in PB than I, that a tribunal would foster even more resentment which would be bad.
I'll stick to my guns that mitigating circumstances, character witnesses for someone unfamiliar to Bob, plea bargaining, and a simple right to confront one's accuser (Bob) with their interpretation of the facts would be an improvement and hopefully not divisive. Some of this indeed goes on here. I've seen Bob change blocks because of compelling advocacy by members. Let's see if PB can develop some wings.
I appreciate you discussing this with me Mel.