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Re: 'anything can happen with psych drugs...'

Posted by Jay2112 on April 20, 2022, at 19:04:16

In reply to Re: 'anything can happen with psych drugs...' Lamdage22, posted by SLS on April 20, 2022, at 8:57:42

> > > > Sometimes behind depression there is a disordered personality.
> > >
> > >
> > > More often, I think it is disordered parents.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> > Right but this often leads to a disordered child.
> Presicely.
> To avoid this fact when it is part of someone's life history is to ignore the hope of working to recapture order out of disorder. To relieve one of the pscychosocial stress that contributed to the onset and persistence of depression (or other mental illnesses) can be only work to one's advantage.
> Allowing the old disordered though patterns to persist untreated is to retain indefinitely the paychodynamics that triggered the depression in the first place. Identifying the first few dominoes to fall in the chain of events that generated the alterations in brain function is important to remove the causative factors.
> Childhood adversity, especially neglect, is an almost universal contributor to the subsequent dysregulation in the neurobiology of the brain. The longer one remains depressed, the greater the risk of developing treatment resistance. The same thing applies to the number of depressive episodes one experiences.
> The idea that I'm trying to convey is that psychotherapy + pharmacotherapy (or other biological interventions) is more effective than pharmacotherapy alone. This is supported by almost every clinical study published on the topic.
> The need for psythotherapy as an adjunct to pharmacotherapy is not universal.
> - Scott

Hey guys,

I have a couple of comments as the counsellor First, as horrible as a childhood one has had, what is important is now...the here and now. Not yesterday, not least as far as recovery goes. That is also part of mindfullness.This is what we use to save people's lives:

"The consistent practice of training the mind to attend in the present moment without judgment rather than pursue thoughts and feelings about the past or anticipations about the future is the technique integrated into psychotherapy and behavioral interventions."


The forever argument in psychology is the nature/nurture one. Biology or the envirnonment? Well, sometimes both, some one or the other. Meds and therapy are the evidence-based, best practise. If you can get both, you are much likelier to succeed in overcoming, or better managing, your mental illness.

Seriously, consider this took me 20 years to do so, and despite some setbacks, I am a very high-functioning person with bipolar disorder. Seek out *certified* counsellors, therapists, and social workers, who will make your progress much better. DO NOT try to go it alone.


Humans punish themselves endlessly
for not being what they believe they should be.
-Don Miguel Ruiz-




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