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Re: Tardive Akathisia from Antipsychotics

Posted by ed nieg on March 10, 2019, at 18:35:15

In reply to Re: Tardive Akathisia from Antipsychotics, posted by Christ_empowered on March 10, 2019, at 10:15:06

> hi. im not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I've done some research into the "other" tardive syndromes, including tardive akathisia.
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> opioids apparently can help. benzodiazepines. as with so much in psychiatry, its all about palliatives and behavioral control. a couple case studies i read over mentioned Remeron, but that was for aripiprazole-induced tardive akathisia. gabapentin, lyrica. switch to a different agent, with the goal of suppressing the symptoms.
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> sometimes...this was more with TD, but I seem to recall reading about it in a patient with akathisia upon discontinuing clozapine (which, btw, is actually a big deal, it seems...surprisingly common, really freakishly intense, too...) was to switch to quetiapine, then gradually taper the quetiapine. something about "normalizing" messed up brain receptors (?). I don't know.
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> from reading over your posts, my thought was more along the lines of 'tardive dypshoria.' just as the neuroleptics can -induce- psychosis in the previously unafflicted (from being tranquilized for personality disorder, off label for sleep and agitation, non-psychotic depression and/or mania, etc.), so too can the "antidepressants" cause depression, make depression more severe, and create brain changes that make a person who once did a-OK on, say, 20mgs of Prozac turn "treatment resistant" and require a mini-cocktail to feel ok.
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> I wish I could offer something in terms of fixing it. Personally, since I'm stuck on aripiprazole, I've been doing a DIY Orthomolecular protocol with "standard treatment." So far, this seems to have protected against both EPS and TD (0 tics, 0 tremor, etc....10 years into daily treatment @ 15-30mgs/day) and I also find that I have far less impaired concentration, dysphoria, the general "antipsychotic suck" -type reactions.
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> since you don't seem to require a neuroleptic, maybe you could try an Orthomolecular protocol or other potentially helpful supplements, without the psych drugs on board?
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> taurine has been studied with ongoing 'atypical antipsychotic' treatment. at 4 grams/daily, it seems to hasten response, improve scores in all the tests the shrinks use...
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> and some evidence suggests a reduction in the risk of TD. Taurine has other uses in "alternative health," too...
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> helping stabilize mood, lowering anxiety levels, helping cardio-issues, etc. like most (all?) amino acid supplements, one would be well advised to take it on an empty stomach.
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> amino acids are not part of traditional Orthomolecular protocols...the more old school OM literature, especially dealing with psych issues, is geared more towards B3, antioxidant vitamins (C, E, beta carotene, etc.), minerals. I've personally gotten better results from going above 10 grams/daily with time release vitamin C and pushing the B3 dosage (I personally prefer niacinamide) above 3 grams/daily, but...
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> 4 grams/taurine daily might be a relatively easy, fairly inexpensive way to "test the waters." just a thought.
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The only "orthomolecular" thing I've been doing is taking a fish oil/vitamin d supplement. I agree my symptoms are maybe more adequately explained by tardive dysphoria because, well, I'm always dysphoric and anhedonic. I've had acute akathisia from neuroleptics before and that form of inner restlessness was maybe a 9 or 10 on the pain/suffering scale while the type of restlessness I currently experience is more a 2 or 3. It's so subtle that I'm not sure if I hadn't already jumped down the research rabbit hole on the interwebs that I would even give it much thought. Now that I've read about it I notice it more, haha. I think it's worse when I'm trying to sleep.


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