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Re: Latuda for depression - Anyone? » SLS

Posted by bleauberry on August 25, 2018, at 18:17:51

In reply to Latuda for depression - Anyone?, posted by SLS on August 21, 2018, at 13:43:29

I think at this point after all these years of trials I would maybe venture away from conventional group-think (SSRIs, Antipsychotics) and instead go with things that are known to improve mood. Like stimulants. Like opioids. Like opioid-lile substances. Like non-politically correct options that your doctor can write a prescription for that he doesn't usually write prescriptions for. Because everything else he could write a prescription for is just more of the same - SSRI and AP. Basically.
I wish we could get the old original formula of Nardil back!!!
Tell your doctor you want to find some legal drugs that make you feel better. Not antidepressants, necessarily. Because those actually make most people dysphoric not happy. Tell him it's time in life to feel good and do whatever it takes to do that. Think of it not as treating depression, but rather, boosting mood and happiness. It's a different game with different tools.
Example: For me, Ritalin did more good than any of the dozens of other meds. There is a stimulant that can probably do something similar for you. There are probably supplements to turbocharge them if they aren't strong enough. In the opioid category I had a rule with myself - 1.never more than 3 days in a week 2.never more than 2 days in a row. I did Vicadin that way. It really lifted me up and made me feel normal - not high - not drugged - but totally absolutely normal. But the short half life...and the easy addiction....and the worsened depression of withdrawal....and so that's why I had those rules.
Vicadin didn't allow me to feel happy and normal every day, but for at least a few days, and those days were like stepping stones, like life preservers, like gas tanks filled with hope, they gave me the strength and the creativity to figure out my next steps instead of staying stuck. And some of it bled over into the next day - the next day was never a bad day, even though the Vicodin was gone, it hit the chemistry in a way that lasted a while.
It's hard to make progress when every day sucks. You need at least one or two really decent days here and there. And they are important enough to force with mind altering drugs if necessary.
So I say tell the doc let's switch gears. Make the focus mood improvement rapidly and directly, versus anti-depression.
A big factor in my thinking here is age. You and I are at an age now where it's not like we have forever to keep trying things we've already tried over and over. There isn't enough difference between any of the SSRIS, SNRIs, or APs that after all these years suddenly one of them is going to be magic while none of the others were. That just isn't going to happen, in my opinion, just being real.
Time to switch gears. Time to feel good. Time to throw caution to the wind - a little bit, gently, responsibly - and enjoy some life.


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